I'm a new Upper at Andover - Can I help anyone?

<p>After spending copious amount of time on College Confidential last year, I matriculated at Phillips Academy as a new Upper (11th grader). I know we are few in number, but I would love to help anyone applying as new Uppers (or anyone else interested in PA, for that matter). Additionally, if you still need to plan your tour and/or interview, I proudly give tours on Fridays during 7th period (1:50-2:45) so I know a fair amount about campus and the school in general.</p>

<p>So please, ask away! I'd be happy to help out. I'm absolutely in love with Andover, and I think you can be as well.</p>

<p>Hi Tom,
Roughly 10% of Andover students are international. I’m a foreign student applying to Andover, too. Do you think international students at the Academy, especially non-native English speakers, integrate? I mean, the fact that the majority of international students use English as a foreign language makes it harder for them to communicate effectively in a predominantly English environment.
assign.</p>

<p>Is Andover as awful as everyone says?</p>

<p>Thanks! I’m still very unsure about applying to Andover, and the reason for that’s mainly intimidation. (Huge, huuuge intimidation.) I’m afraid that the atmosphere would be stressful and make someone insecure about themselves if they’re less-than-stellar. Is everyone at Andover excellent whether in one field or all of them, or are there varying degrees of excellence? Did that even make sense? Haha, I guess to summarize everything I’m just wondering if there’s a lot of pressure in being surrounded by amazing peers. </p>

<p>Also: Was it hard for you to adjust as a new Upper? I would come in as a new Lower. Does it take long to catch up to the academic requirements and school culture? How hard is it to fit in socially (like, do new Lowers/Uppers tend to hang out together?)?</p>

<p>LOL @istoleyournose xD</p>

<p>Hahahahaha, istoleyournose… :P</p>

<p>How did you fit in as a new upper? Was it hard to make friends/adjust to the schoolwork? Do you think that as a new sophomore, one would go through similar experiences…?</p>

<p>Is the grading as brutal as everyone says it is?
AND…
Do you know anything about the Andover dive team 8) <- You should, T!</p>

<p>What do you do on the weekends? What would you say the key differences between Andover and Exeter are?
Oh and this is incredibly trivial but do they make you write in American English? At my current public school my teachers are always yelling at me for spelling things the British way. It doesn’t really matter but it’s so annoying and in a testing environment I always forget to change it and lose marks.</p>

<p>You took my advice :D!!
I would transfer to Andover as a new Upper (if i got in, that is :P)
How hard was it to adjust?
What’s it like to be a New Upper?
Could I pm you my Andover essays?
Thanks</p>

<p>Oh…and whats the dating scene like? Is it really as impossible as everyone says?</p>

<p>Assign: You’ll have absolutely no trouble integrating here. I’m always shocked at how low the international statistic is because it always seems that there are so many more international students here than that. In fact, I’d say almost 20% of the student body speaks English as a second or third language. You would be in very, very good company here, and teachers are always understanding of language barriers - which, by the way, never last long here.</p>

<p>istoleyournose: Yes, it’s terrible. Andover only offers 300 courses, from introductory algebra through to Expansion and Indian Policy in the 19th Century: kill the Indian, Save The Man. Facilities are awful - we only have one swimming pool, two ice rinks, and a $40 million science center. Andover also consistently ranks terribly in comparison to other schools, as demonstrated by Wall Street Journal’s choice in 2004 to rank it the #1 boarding school in the United States. Also, in everyday life here, there’s this peevish sense of happiness that seems to pervade every corner of life here and which is so infectious that most are happy all the time, despite workload and sleep deprivation. So yes, there’s plenty to hate here.</p>

<p>Tuesdays: Yes, everyone here is stellar at something. However, that thing is not always academics. One of my best friends here, who was just accepted ED into Columbia, is an incredible poet. A PG who lives next door to me in my dorm has committed to Harvard for baseball - but he also happens to be in Math 661, Andover’s top math course. There are also plenty of people here who are good at everything, exceptionally well-rounded. One thing that’s harder to find here, however, is the sense of competitiveness that one might expect to infiltrate an environment such as that of Andover, one of an incredible amount of talent so densely packed. Kids are nice to each other and tend to be able to separate school from the rest of their life. They remember that school is school - we may live here, but it’s still just school. JUST school. The environment is almost consistently laid-back, thank God. It’s nice to not go to school in a pressure cooker. Kids here are generally happy. You forget you go to one of the most academically rigorous schools in the world. In terms of adjusting, it’s been a real challenge. Upper year is just tough no matter how you look at it - but especially coming in as a new student. You are expected to hit the ground running. I would say I hit the ground at a light jog… Socially though, it’s been great. I hang out with a few other new Uppers, but I’ve integrated well - just like the rest of the new Uppers. In terms of being a new Lower, it should be easier academically since Lower year is a little more built around the possibility of new students than Upper year is. There are only 22 new Uppers compared to the 70 new Lowers. Also, the Lower workload is generally considerably lighter anyway. Socially, you’d do fine too.</p>

<p>DiveAlive: I answered part of your question above, but about the other part - Andover grading is BRUTAL. It’s possible to succeed, yes, but for some people, achieving a 4 on a paper or test is a real triumph. I’ve written what I considered to be beautiful, outstanding essays for history 300, the standard Upper US history class - and the best I’ve gotten is a 5. So far, I’ve gotten three 6s here. 6s are a real rarity for most people. But I have definitely found that increased standards have really benefited me. The grading here forces you to up your game. It really does. As for the diving team, I really can’t say I do… Although I believe the girls won the New Englands last year.</p>

<p>BlueRaven1: On the weekends there are always shuttles into town where there’s a massive outdoor mall and movie theaters, etc. On top of that, the train station, within easy walking distance of school, provides easy access to Boston, so my friends and I occasionally get day passes and go into the city for the day. However, if you feel like staying on campus, there are always MYRIAD activities at school. Every week, an email newsletter called The Weekender is sent to every student which outlines weekend events and their times and locations. There’s a dance virtually every weekend as well as more interesting events such as Guinness World Record attempts. We had a hypnotist nearer the beginning of the year - 800 people tried to attend and there was only seating space for 450 in the venue. That’s definitely not uncommon - kids here love to be part of the life of the school. As well as that, there are weekly drama productions, also extremely heavily-attended. Weekend games are also wickedly popular. All in all, there is an incredible number of things to keep kids occupied, no matter what you’re into, and the nice thing is that if you do stay on campus, you’re definitely not alone. Our Student Activities Board works so hard and as a result the activities offered are just completely unparalleled. As for writing in English English as opposed to American English, I do it all the time being a Brit myself. I find it helps preserve my cultural identity - especially since I have no British accent. The teachers certainly have no problem with it. You’ll find that with assignments here, the teachers aren’t looking as much for grammatical “issues” (since most people here write incredibly well anyway) as they are for deeper meaning.</p>

<p>How strong is the Exeter-Andover rivalry? Are delightful pieces of sarcasm similar to the one above common when E and A students meet?</p>

<p>Hoping411: You certainly may PM me your essays! I’d be glad to read them.</p>

<p>The dating scene is surprisingly colorful, actually. In my experience, it’s easier here than at home because, well, most people live on campus. You can eat all three meals with the object of your desire and in general have more opportunities to connect over the typical day. More people here date than they did at my old school. Plus, with parietals, it’s easy and convenient to get one-on-one time, though there are plenty of leafy, quiet areas around campus to go for walks as well. I guess that living on campus just facilitates the whole thing. Also, those who settle for casual hookups are never disappointed either…</p>

<p>Also, I realize I forgot to answer one of BlueRaven1’s questions - the differences between Andover and Exeter. Here, I’ll try to remain really unbiased and stick to things that kids at both schools will affirm. First of all, I think most would agree that Andover is generally more casual than Exeter. There’s no uniform/restrictive dress code here, the internet is never turned off, etc. This element works to the advantage of some and not others, but what I’ve found is that kids here become very independent as a result of being given so many choices and then forced to deal with the consequences of their decisions. Freedom with responsibility, I guess.</p>

<p>Also, a lot of people here ask about the happiness of students at schools. With Exeter threads the issue of the odd unhappy kid and stressful school life almost always comes up, but in my experience, the VAST, VAST, VAST majority of kids here at Andover are genuinely happy to be here. Is it because Andover is “easier” than Exeter? I doubt it. Is it because we sleep more and don’t work as hard? I highly, highly doubt it. In any case, there’s something in the air here at Andover that makes people happy and proud to be here.</p>

<p>However, when it all comes down to it, Andover and Exeter are both schools of 1,100 students, 30%+ rates of Ivy+Stanford+MIT matriculation, low acceptance and high average SAT score, demanding academics, and extensive athletics, within 40 miles of each other. In other words, Andover and Exeter are similar. There, I said it.</p>

<p>Whoah, thanks a TON for such a detailed response. I really appreciate it 8D Another question: How hard is it to set up a new club as an underclassman? Or start a school-wide campaign, or anything related to that, actually.</p>

<p>kli: Yeah, they’re pretty common. The rivalry is strong, but it rarely crosses the boundaries of civility. It’s a strong, historical rivalry, but it’s still a high school rivalry. However, Andover and Exeter students often cooperate. I know that Andover’s community service program collaborates with Exeter’s with regularity.</p>

<p>That was really courageous of you :stuck_out_tongue: How much sleep on average do you guys get?</p>

<p>Tuesdays: It’s easy. It just requires dedication. One of my best friends, a new student from Texas, started a new club that raises money towards empowering women in Africa by providing them with condoms and other birth control while raising awareness about HIV/AIDS. It’s a pretty heavily attended club and it was just started at the beginning of this year. If the willpower is there, it’s easy to arrange.</p>

<p>Thanks for the detailed responses. All the other threads seem to be on Exeter and seeing as I’m not applying there, this was especially helpful. When did you start your essays last year, if you don’t mind me asking?</p>

<p>Haha, I started my essay pretty late last year… I definitely wouldn’t recommend it. If you have any spare time whatsoever, I’d definitely recommend working on your essays and spacing said work over an extended length of time - two weeks, perhaps. I ended up totally burned out and I mailed my essays ON the deadline… It was a good essay, I know it was, but I definitely didn’t need the stress.</p>

<p>Thanks! Do you have to have some sort of faculty guidance when creating the new club?</p>

<p>Haha Blue, procrastination…I didn’t start any of the essays I meant to today. ><</p>

<p>Tuesdays, I’m afraid I really don’t know too incredibly much about the particulars of starting up a new club as I haven’t myself. I’d assume you do, though, no matter how much Andover prides itself on the independence of its students and on their abilities to run their own organizations, such as the Phillipian, completely on their own.</p>

<p>Well, I thought about starting my profile today… I’ve never done anything early in my life and I’m not starting now. Although I am seriously considering starting soon, as the week of the 15th is exam week at my school and I would’ve just missed a week due to interviews. haha Tuesday, I guess I’m developing a rep for severe procrastination…</p>