<p>Hmmmm. I agree with that. I am wondering what the income is of the 2300+'ers on this site.</p>
<p>I got a 2400 and I’m on reduced lunch, though to be fair, it’s a bit of a unique situation, and my parents are both highly educated. (Blue book for the win!) It is an interesting question, though, and I wonder how closely income is correlated with the rigor of the student’s high school curriculum or the overall quality of the school.</p>
<p>(as for the original premise of this thread, i’ve only heard from one school, but I’m sure I’ll be back…)</p>
<p>Well, we qualify for aid at the top schools-we are both first generation who are giving back, so not as “rich” as others who had our opportunities…And we live in a socioeconomically mixed community…Our kids are in the top 10% at their public school both economically and academically…
Anyway, the point of the thread(I think) is that great grades and scores do not always an acceptance to a top school make…but hang in there, apply to 10, and if you are qualified, statistically speaking, you should “crack the Ivies”</p>
<p>The scores posted arent even elite scores… I would be amazed if a 33 ACT got you into any ivy.</p>
<p>^well then what is an amazed score to you? I know I have seen decisions stats with people who got rejected with a 36 ACT, so I don’t know if it gets more amazed than that.</p>
<p>^ That example does nothing for your argument. Of course people with 36s will be rejected, it is inevitable, but that does not show how a 33 is an elite score. A 33 at harvard is in the lower 25%, the category of admissions reserved for athletes and URM. Even the SAT score of 2280 is lower than the top 65% at Harvard, maybe even the top 75%.</p>
<p>^ The average SAT score at Harvard is around 2200-2220</p>
<p>A score would of 2280 would be above the 65-70% at Harvard, not below it.</p>
<p>^ my bad I read it wrong. But for CR + M, the top 25% had a total of 1590. I highly dought they messed up on their W for over 100 pts. Meaning that probably, the top half of harvard already have the score of 2280</p>
<p>34 ACT
4.0 unweighted GPA (won’t list weighted because each school does it differently)
Valedictorian
Great recs, EC’s, leadership…</p>
<p>rejected Harvard, Stanford
waitlisted (and did not come off) WUSTL and Brown
Had great acceptances at other great (non-Ivy) schools and ended up at a financial safety, which is a great school anyway and got full tuition merit. He is very happy there and happy we will pay for grad school.</p>
<p>Add to my above post- 13 AP’s plus one college class.</p>
<p>What worked against him, in my opinion… No hook- White male from Long Island plays against him.</p>
<p>If no SAT was sent in (no SAT II’s at harvard are automatic rejections) the 34 ACT isn’t going to POP for the admissions and say “wow he can handle it.” I mean thats the average score when applying to such schools. These types of rejections happen; too many quailfied kids apply for a limited number of spots.</p>
<p>Most people might not believe this, but most North Eastern schools prefer the SAT over the ACT. This was probably the reason your son got rejected, including the fact that he took no SAT 2’s ( 2-3 are required by most top schools)</p>
<p>^
You are right about me not believing that. Can you tell me why you say that?</p>
<p>Olleger, I seriously would like to know what an elite score is to you because you seem to be talking about some kind of magical test that does not exist. Yes for top schools scores like 33-36 are average as you say, but they are still top ‘elite’ scores.</p>
<p>To those who argue that SATs are biased toward wealthy families: so are GPA, EC, opportunities for “interesting life experiences”. There’s no absolute justness but standardized tests are the most meritocratic measures of educational potential in this system.</p>
<p>@ sstewart, 36 ACT/ 2400 SAT
AT LEAST A 2390 SAT to have a chance.</p>
<p>^ yes</p>
<p>lol, this thread sounds like a place for bitter people to whine. Just saying.</p>
<p>Well it isn’t so there.lol</p>
<p>oh burn. nice comeback. you got me.</p>