<p>No, that will not make you instate. </p>
<p>No scenario you have detailed in this thread makes you instate, nor do any of them make you eligible to be instate at a later time. </p>
<p>But why so? If I acquire NY domicile while doing Associate and do a job after that, then I will be independent when I will be back for BS. This should be in confomation with the in-state law.</p>
<p>You will not be independent for residency purposes. That is not how it works. </p>
<p>I know you want a different answer. Unfortunately, there is not one.</p>
<p>For undergraduate school, YOUR domicile is considered the domicile of your parents in the very vast majority of cases. You would not be considered an in state student unless your family moves to NY state. </p>
<p>You have been hashing this issue around since the fall. You have been told the SAME things since the fall.</p>
<p>I think for residency purposes, he could be an independent. Depending on the state, many require that the person be self supporting, and prove it. A job, a car, a living place, register to vote, etc. will go toward it. For FINANCIAL AID purposes, it remains 24 years old unless he can meet one of the FAFSA independence requirements. Have you considered 2 years in the military?</p>
<p>He wants to establish residency for instate tuition in NY state…while attending a community college. </p>
<p>In addition to drivers license and the like, he would also have to show HE earned enough to support ALL of his expenses including his OOS tuition at the community college, and all living expenses. That self supporting thing is an important component as noted in the post above.</p>
<p>And STILL he will have graduated from a HS that is not in NY state. His parents don’t reside in NY state. This is going to be a very uphill, and not guaranteed appeal for instate status.</p>
<p>No, not easy but not the same inflexible FAFSA standard of ‘24 years.’ It can be done. if he can be self supporting. I think it may be easier since his parents aren’t citizens. It makes sense if a citizen separates from non-citizens. There are many community college students who are self supporting.</p>
<p>Proof of Domicile</p>
<p>The campus relies on documents and circumstances such as the following to determine if an individual’s domicile is in New York State. For financially dependent students, the campus relies on documents relating to a parent(s) or legal guardian(s). A residency application plus documents supporting New York State residency must be submitted to the Student Accounts Office for processing. Students are notified by email of the residency decision.</p>
<pre><code>Duration of physical presence in New York State.
State of residency of student’s family.
New York State voter registration.
New York State driver’s license.
New York State motor vehicle registration.
New York State real property ownership.
New York State residential rental lease.
New York State income tax returns.
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<p>Each individual SUNY campus is responsible for determining a student’s residency status. The campus determination is final.</p>
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<p>The OP must establish that he’s independent (financially) and that he stays in NY.</p>
<p>The second item on the above list is “state of residency of student’s family”.</p>
<p>Just saying.</p>
<p>Certainly, this student can apply for an instate residency status consideration. What I’m saying is, it is not a slam dunk that he will receive it, and he should research this very carefully before making a commitment to a college that could very well be unaffordable in subsequent years.</p>
<p>It’s not that difficult to become a state resident for the privilege of paying that state’s taxes, getting a library card, even getting voter’s registration, driver’s license and car registration. Or physically becoming a resident. Easy peasy. Being eligible for in state tuition for state schools is a whole other thing. As others have said, you have to look at each school as to what their requirements are . It’s even trickier because the rules can be different even within programs at a school. Our local SUNY doesn’t blink if you want to take a course just as a casual student. You give a local address and check that you are resident of NY state, that’s it. You want to apply as a matriculating student for a degree program, that’s a whole other story. For the most part, if you are considered dependent for fin aid purposes, your parents have to be a state resident and meet the requirements, not you. A parent with NY state residence can get that state tuiton for their kid who has been overseas all of his/her life much easier than if you are here and the parent is overseas. It depends on the parents’ residency. </p>
<p>You also want financial aid, and that’s a whole other thing. NY has TAP for state residents, but you gotta meet the income and residence requirements and they do check those very carefully. A number of states do have money for instaters but you have to meet their requirements so you have to do the research on them.</p>
<p>As a US citizen, you are entitled for consideration for financial aid from most schools. That is a big plus. At a lot of schools, internationals are simply not eligible at all. Also, you can get accepted on a need blind basis at most schools–some to not extend this to international students. You are also eligible for federal aid. But eligible and entitled do not necessarily mean getting. Just means you can go for it, which foreign student will not be even allowed to do. </p>
<p>What is that 24-years old law?</p>
<p>If you will be 24 years old during the college year for your FAFSA, you are considered an independent student for financial aid purposes when completing your FAFSA.</p>
<p>This does NOT necessarily translate into addition need based aid OR instate status for tuition purposes as an undergrad.</p>
<p>Is this parent’s residency also an issue at the Master’s level?</p>
<p>As a grad student, you should be able to establish your own residency in a state. You would need to check exactly how you would establish your own residency.</p>
<p>For financial aid purposes, you would be considered independent as a grad student. However, some medical and dental schools will still require your parents’ financials for med or law schools.</p>
<p>It means that a student must be 24 years old before they are considered to be independent financially from the Parents. So until you are 24, your parents residency and your parent’s income apply for financial aid consideration.</p>
<p>If you move to NY, get a job and support yourself for a year, register to vote, pay taxes, get a state driver license or ID, then maybe you will get consideration for instate tuition.</p>
<p>Again, reading each school’s requirements for in state qualification for tuition purposes is essential. Basically, these schools want those who are attending the school at state rates to have completed a state income tax form or would have, had they had to file the form if they are independent or grad students, and for their parents to be in that situation if the student is a dependent. For those who are here and attending the high schools in state for 3 years in a row,the state schools give such students, in state residency. That is provision to help kids whose parents are illegally here. </p>
<p>But, yes, it is very possible to have a citizenship but no state residency. Means you didn’t have to pay state taxes to any state. I was in that situation even with parents who were citizens in that they did not pay state taxes while over seas. Come time to go to college, I had no home state for instate tuition purposes and I went to school with a bunch of expat kids in the same situation.</p>
<p>Operant word in BrownParent’s post…MAYBE. </p>
<p>And remember…self supporting would need to include enough income to pay all of your expenses, living expenses, and college costs at OOS rates. And as an FYI, with that much student income, your likelihood for getting need based aid as an independent student at a SUNY is low.</p>
<p>Some colleges have very strong wording that in order to be eligible for instate rates, (grad or ungrad), the main PURPOSE for coming in state has to be something other than college. Someone who come in state with money from parents, and just hangs around for the statuatory period of time to get instate rates, applying to instate colleges, may find difficulties in explaining why he came there and what he was doing, though enforcement of that can be dicey. Getting a job AND THEN applying to a college is probably a better idea.</p>
<p>Look at some states and schools that don’t have such constraints. There are states with low OOS costs and some with good merit money. </p>
<p>Actually, I think the SUNY colleges DO have lower OOS costs than many other public universities in other states.</p>
<p>Truman State is one such school that has very low out of state tuition, AND they give merit scholarships to OOS students. My D was accepted there with approx 1/2 tuition scholarship which made it cheaper than our cheapest in-state option. </p>