<p>Hi all, seen this thread a couple of times but never really got what I felt was a definitive answer for my situation. I have been accepted in Miami and Indiana, both business schools, and both honors programs. I really do love both schools. Miami is offering me at least 80 thousand dollars over four years, versus Indiana which has offered me 44 but I am hoping to get 60 after hutton scholarships. I like the campus of Miami more but I like Indiana's as well, and love Bloomington a little more than Oxford, and a big 10 atmosphere for sports (huge sports fan). But what it comes down to for me is the quality of business school. I want to do business economics or operations management almost certainly. I am fearful that Miami will not be able to get me a job in a top consulting firm. Though ranks are far from everything, I am also confused because USNWR ranks Farmer very low while businessweek ranks it pretty high. While I love that Miami would be cheaper (neither would force me to take out loans) I am fearful the business school quality would hamper me. In other words, social scene kind of a non factor, all about quality of education at this point, and whether Kelley is worth the extra.
Thanks all to respond!! I really appreciate it.</p>
<p>My son is at Miami. We looked hard at both schools. He was a direct admit to Kelley honors and to Farmer honors. He is admittedly not looking at landing a job in a “top” consulting firm. No offense, neither school will likely get you there as a “first job”. There are about 10 schools that get those kinds of looks. What made his decision? 1.) Your teachers at Miami, particularly in the Honors program, will be full professors, and you will have between 10 and 40 students in your classes. Miami is well known for having very personalized undergraduate education. 2.) IU is huge. If you are a very mature student, this means lots of opportunity If you are prone to distraction, it means sleeping through classes. I cannot tell you how many students struggle with lack of discipline at IU. Many of my son’s high school friends bombed their freshman year at IU. My son has a very high GPA at Farmer. Partly a result of very small classes, where you simply know - you can’t be gone.
Both campuses are gorgeous and you can get a great, well-respected education either place.
As an HR Director, however, I think you need to do a gut check. Are you mature enough for a big school where you can skip class without being noticed? If so, I think you should go to the school that you will get the best financial package at, or like the best.
People will argue back and forth about which school is “better”. I am an IU grad. I think my son is getting a better education at Miami. You’re probably going to need to work and then go to grad school anyway to get where you want to go. Your undergraduate goal is to put a lot on your resume, get great internships, and make outstanding grades. I think that for my son, those goals were more likely attained in a smaller environment.</p>
<p>P.S…both schools offer a great social life. One fun thing at Miami - under 21 bars where you can go and hang out and dance…not the case at IU. It was one of my daughter’s biggest complaints about IU.
Something to check out at Miami…great China business program. My son is an Accounting and Analytics Major, with a minor in Chinese. He will do a semester in China working in Chinese business. With a billion people, and a much faster growing economy than the US has, something to think about.</p>
<p>If you are a Hutton student, and especially if you are bringing a lot of credits with you to Bloomington, you won’t have trouble finding small classes. The honors sections of business classes are small, between 25-50 students. Nearly all of the 300-400level business classes are in the same range of students.</p>
<p>If you want the opportunity to get a top consulting job, you can do it at Kelley, but you have to be really, really good. It does not require a graduate degree, but, again, you need to be good. Top consulting firms recruit Kelley. Here are two people from the most recent graduating class who work at Bain Capital and who have outstanding credentials.</p>
<p>[Nicole</a> Budzynski | LinkedIn](<a href=“http://■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/in/nicolebudzynski?trk=pub-pbmap]Nicole”>http://■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/in/nicolebudzynski?trk=pub-pbmap)</p>
<p>[Nick</a> Stoffregen | LinkedIn](<a href=“http://■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/pub/nick-stoffregen/37/6b4/5b2?trk=pub-pbmap]Nick”>http://■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/pub/nick-stoffregen/37/6b4/5b2?trk=pub-pbmap)</p>
<p>Get accepted into the Kelley Consulting Workshop and you will have plenty of opportunities to prove yourself.</p>
<p>[Undergraduate</a> Consulting Workshop | Kelley Consulting Network | Kelley School of Business: Indiana University Bloomington](<a href=“http://www.kelley.iu.edu/kcn/workshop/]Undergraduate”>http://www.kelley.iu.edu/kcn/workshop/)</p>
<p>Here is a student from May 2012 who works at McKinsey.</p>
<p>[Nathan</a> Baldwin | LinkedIn](<a href=“http://■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/pub/nathan-baldwin/51/858/8a2]Nathan”>http://■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/pub/nathan-baldwin/51/858/8a2)</p>
<p>More students wind up at PwC, Deloitte Consulting, etc.</p>
<p>Business Economics and Public Policy, often with double major finance, is a good program for consulting.
[Salary</a> Statistics : UCSO Home : Kelley School of Business: Indiana University](<a href=“Undergraduate Career Services | Undergraduate Career Services | Indiana Kelley”>Undergraduate Career Services | Undergraduate Career Services | Indiana Kelley)</p>
<p>It seems you have done a great job at finding pros and cons of each.</p>
<p>For you, I’d recommend coming to IU if you wish to have a great business school that can platform you into a consultant job. Miami has a great program, but not as well known as Kelley, but from the looks of it will cost far less. </p>
<p>I too got accepted to both, but I chose Kelley because of the better academics. You get what you pay for, but in my case Kelley ended up being cheaper and the obvious choice for me. </p>
<p>I’d recommend writing a list of pros and cons of each from what you already have. Think about location as a matter of driving from home and people you may know. Ask yourself what you want out of college, and see if one school fulfills that more than another.</p>
<p>Better academics? Miami is ranked #3 in the nation in undergraduate teaching. They also have the highest percentage of students studying abroad. I think it may be presumptuous to say Iu has better academics. Honors to honors, Miami sends a higher percentage to grad school. And as far as consulting goes, as a VP of HR, I would not use a 22 year old consultant…no matter where they went to school. Sorry. I am a Kelley grad myself. No doubt a good school. When i was there, they were #2. But now they are just another massive state school. With great resources. If you are very focused and mature…great. If you have a little lack of discipline that you need a little more structure and guidance…miami is better structured for that. It is all undergrad. It is smaller. That is what they do. When it came down to deciding what was right for our student, it was a better choice.</p>
<p>Kelley is tougher to get into and more prestigious. I am currently in Farmer and transferring next year. I’m sure Farmer has more students studying abroad and attending grad school because mommy and daddy have the wallet to allow them to do these activities. There are some very unintelligent individuals in Farmer as intra-campus transferring is quite easy. I don’t know as much about Kelley, but I can guarantee their students are more intelligent as their admission standards for Kelley are higher.</p>