instate tuition?

<p>hey. so i'm a michigan resident... yet because i'm an international student, i'm apparently not allowed for instate tuition. HOWEVER! they have on their registrar page that if i'm a dependent and have a parent that works full time in michigan (which i do have!) and <em>severance of out-of-state ties</em> i'm good to go as INSTATE.
my problem? i have no idea what the <em>severance of out-of-state ties</em> means. help?!?
(also. my dad works in my country back home. he travels back and force between countries because his job is over there.)</p>

<p>ps. thanks in advance for responding. much appreciated.</p>

<p>I think international= oos tuition, and I don’t think there is anyway around it.
If your dad travels you’re definitely not in-state.</p>

<p>If your mother is a Michigan citizen (no OOS ties), then you are eligible for in-state tuition. If both your parents have citizenship in other states/countries, then U-M will force you to pay OOS tuition.</p>

<p>"If both your parents have citizenship in other states/countries, then U-M will force you to pay OOS tuition. "
not true. My parents have citizenships in another country and im considered instate.</p>

<p>OP, if your parents both file taxes in michigan, have a house here, pay bills here and some other stuff, you can rightfully claim in-state status. I was in the same situation and I just had to give the university a boatload of information and after a long time they changed my status. </p>

<p>What “severance of OOS ties” means is that your family does not currently work in another state, they don’t live there, and they pay their taxes in michigan</p>

<p>If the OP’s mother does not pay taxes in Michigan, the OP would have a difficult time claiming in-state tuition even if they have a house here.</p>

<p>not possible…sorry.</p>

<p>oh. i’m uber confused. wow. i have two completely different arguments here. ok. i’ll go a little more in detail. i came to michigan when i just turned four. so been living here about 13 years? and gone through all my schooling in michigan. during that time, my parents pay all the taxes and my mom has her green card. (which if you think about it, is kinda effed up, because i’m a dependent of her but they wouldn’t give me a green card when she got hers… ugh…) my dad has his job in my country so he has to travel back and forth. andddd none of my parents work in another state or anything. oh! and my mom has a full time job in michigan. she’s a lecturer for EMU.
does this make my situation a little clearer??</p>

<p>definitely not going to get in-state tuition.</p>

<p>Since you are not a permanent resident, then you will not get in state tuition.
If you get a green card, you probably will.</p>

<p>i think your going to need your own permanent residency card. Also, a problem might be your father’s job, though i think you can get away with that. Try to apply for one right now.</p>

<p>Jestergirl, I know we went over this before but you’ve added new information. I don’t understand why you’re not eligible for a green card. Your mother’s status should give you derivative status.
I would ask her to file a petition to INS immediately, and then USE that petition in your residency proof evidence. I would get a letter from your dad’s employer explaining why he has to be able to travel back to your home company and confirming his residence and ongoing employment in MI and the “permanent” nature of it.
Then I would summarize that you personally (if true) have never resided or attended school in your home country for the last 13 years.</p>

<p>Technically, in some respects, you meet the standard for residency. But if you have assets in your name in your home country, or if by your father’s frequent returns “home” it is considered a TIE for YOU ( you could argue, if true, that same is merely a condition of employment ).</p>

<p>And as I mentioned on another thread, if I were you I would get this all into the residency office asap because it affects more than tuition – It affects in some cases whether you’re accepted. There are 65 MI RES spots out of every 100 – and 35 International. You might need the boost, let alone the cost effectiveness of instate tuition.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>goddd this sucks butt. man. michigan’s instate policies are seriously total bs. i’ve lived in michigan longer than some, yet they will end up having instate tuition and getting priority acceptance merely because i have the title of “international”. and it’s not like i’m an actual international student either!!! a;ojdsnfa;fd eff. ok. anyways. thank u to all that replied!!</p>

<p>^ Hate to break it to you, but U of M’s standards are similar to that of most state universities. Unless you have a green card (or apparently “permanent resident” status) you’re going to be seen as an international because, according to the school and the government, you are. To them, you honestly are no different than people who jumped the borders down in Mexico. Unfair, but honest.</p>

<p>hmmm i’d have to disagree. some state schools, if you’ve stayed in that state for a minimum time of like an year and a half, you’re instate. well this is an extreme case, but nonetheless. msu and other schools in mich would let me b instate, because of my parent’s statuses and whatnot. most other state schools in other places would to.</p>

<p>Jestergirl is correct – go check out Michigan State’s residency policy, for example. JG could attend just about any other U. in Michigan right now as an in-state.
However, in defense of U of Mich, it attracts a very high volume of OOS applicants who are willing to buy second homes etc. in an attempt to get instate tuition. The school has a statistically high OOS community, an international reputation, and a long history of people attempting to benefit from residency who are not in fact residents. It is considerably more difficult to be accepted to U of Mich than most other Michigan universities, so it does not need to attract OOS with instate waivers the way some schools do as a recruiting tool.
I hated its policy and even felt like complaining to ACLU about it, but eventually came around to seeing why it needs such a rigorous policy.
What I DO hope is that in Jestergirl’s case, they are able to identify that she SHOULD be entitled to instate treatment because in her case there is a compelling argument for same. So, JG, state your case as powerfully as you can!</p>

<p>^kmccrindle:
haha thank you very much. it’s nice to b cheered on after being put down countless times. thank you!</p>