intellectual spirit at ILR

<p>how is it? do ILR'ies debate outside of the classroom? Is there a lot of in class discussion? Are kids actually interested in what they are learning? anything else you want to talk about...</p>

<p>haha…well i can only speak for myself. i’m a freshman in ILR, and what i’ve noticed is that during large lectures there isn’t any real discussions to speak of. although in OB122 with Goncalo this year, there was this one annoying girl who sat down in the front (this girl would not shut up lol). but ILR is actually really interesting to me. i personally like it…</p>

<p>also i took classes in the summer before entering Cornell, and there was definitely a lot of in-class discussion. one class was CB100 with Professor Cowie. then again, this class in the summer had maybe 15 students in it. so i’m guessing that the smaller the class size is, the more opportunity there is for in-class discussion.</p>

<p>as for out of class discussions, lets say that i have quite a bit of experience. whether it be debating democrats/others before and after speeches made by the likes of John Ashcroft or Sandra Day O’Connor, attending college democrats/republican meetings, or just running into others around campus, debates never seem to escape me.</p>

<p>that’s my experiences with cornell in general more than ILR though. hope it helps.</p>

<p>like mrsopresident said, there is not a lot of discussion in lecture courses with 100-200 students, but those are most likely lower level classes anyway. Some of the higher-level elective courses are much more discussion based and have 15-40 students so you will hear a lot of different opinions.</p>

<p>I don’t really hear or see a lot of debates outside the classroom. They may occur but not frequently. After sitting in class all day you don’t want to hear any more about the unemployment rate, sam gompers, section 7 violations, or the taft-hartley act.</p>

<p>Yeah I think most ILRies are interested in what they’re studying. You have tons of opportunities to take electives in areas that interest you and that is what most students do.</p>

<p>The discussion in my intro classes has been pretty limited, but out-of-class discussions sparked by our coursework are actually quite common. In many a study group, we will get to talking about how major parties treat unions, and that will often evolve into a bigger political discussion. </p>

<p>I think there is definitely genuine interest in ILR coursework here, but there is a pretty fair representation of in-state pre-laws who are only at ILR because it’s cheaper. Literally the one thing I don’t like about ILR is that it has a reputation for being easy, which is probably related to a perception that people choose it just because it’s cheaper and easier to get into. (Side note: as far as I’m concerned, this one tiny thing I don’t like about ILR is pretty well counterbalanced by everything I love: many many students, amazing profs, close-knit community, Office of Student Services, killer facilities). I’m also sure the above people are right about the electives. By the time you have room for a lot of ILR electives, the small minority of people who don’t love ILR won’t be in your classes because they will seize opportunities to take classes outside of the school.</p>

<p>If u want to debate people u will find many. As said, in large lectures there isn’t very much debate…altho there is some in the sections. I was in a small class tho and people wouldn’t shut up…sooo many opinions lol. If u r interested in politics like I am then you will get into mannny debates lol. You get what you put in. ILR is getting to be pretty diverse (management vs. workers ideologies) so there are diverse sets of opinions.</p>

<p>there’s a great deal of discussion in upper level classes. for my cb656 class, 30% of our grade was based on participation.</p>