Interested: Universal Health Care

<p>Thomas Bodenheimer is awesome. He does have a political tilt (which I disagree with), but it’s not a severe one and he is very straightforward about it. Atul Gawande and Abraham Verghese have both written some excellent pieces on the subject.</p>

<p>i am still in High school so no i cannot apply to Medical school. Pretty sure im getting into a top 10 university. Ill do a double major in Bio/Finance. </p>

<p>Although to my knowledge all of the top 10 have exceptionally high Medical school matriculation rate. MCAT really does not look that hard - my dad said it was easy. I mean seriously 36/45?? Thats easier than getting a 2300 on the SAT (way above 99th percentile). Verbal section on MCAT?!!! the CR is easier. To my knowledge i am geared to medicine- all my EC, awards, SAT 2, and whatever points me to medicine.</p>

<p>A 36 is roughly the 97th percentile. The fact that scores are generally so low is a sign of how difficult the test is. Another sign: about 75% of those who take the MCAT will never be admitted to any medical school whatsoever. MCAT Verbal is more difficult than the SAT’s CR section.</p>

<p>Finally, some actual details:
[Medicare</a> Plans to Cut Specialists’ Payments - WSJ.com](<a href=“http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124646885862181139.html]Medicare”>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124646885862181139.html)</p>

<p>with that type of attitude CC’er you should watch out for complacency…</p>

<p>dude the sats and mcats are completly different…You can’t really prepare for the sats(its luck or how intelligent you are, in my case luck)…the mcats take a lot of preparation(as well as luck and intelligence)…they also test completly different things…I know plenty of people who had 1450+/1600 on the old sats but couldn’t get into 1 medical school(because they did bad on the mcats)</p>

<p>1450 isnt exactly 97th percentile ^^^^</p>

<p>Interesting, so they will plan to cut pay for the specialists.</p>

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<p>owned. 10char</p>

<p>lol… “insults”</p>

<p>a bit of overstatement but ok. Just stating opinions.</p>

<p>Nevertheless, 97th percentile is still 97th percentile. On the other hand, 2300 (around 770 on each section) is way above 97th percentile.</p>

<p>rofl, dude I wasn’t trying to say that 1450/1600 is 97th percentile, my point was that even great students become complacent…espcially kids that make comments like you…</p>

<p>“MCAT really does not look that hard - my dad said it was easy. I mean seriously 36/45?? Thats easier than getting a 2300 on the SAT (way above 99th percentile). Verbal section on MCAT?!!! the CR is easier.”</p>

<p>stop looking at percentiles dude, most kids who are pre-med are actually working to do well on the mcats(they wouldn’t be pre-med if they weren’t going to try and prepare for the mcats) where as in high school most of the kids who took the SATs could have cared less about college or the SATs…you need to take that into consideration when you talk about percentiles…so its easier to score in the 99th percentile on the Sats then it is to score in the 98 percentile on the mcats…</p>

<p>Study other countries and their universal health care programs. Sad to say but it will be just like all other government programs. Look at Social Security and welfare. What is the purpose of Medicaid and Medicare? Isn’t that suppose to be for those who don’t have health-care? All this will turn into “the government will pay.” Remember this - the government has no money! All the money comes from taxpayers. The truth be told, “the taxpayers will pay!”</p>

<p>In fairness, I’m the one who brought up percentiles thinking that the OP would understand that it’s a different pool. Mocking a 36 just displays ignorance. I figured he’d understand that being in the 97th percentile of a premedical population would be pretty impressive; certainly much more impressive than the 99th percentile of the pool that takes the SATs.</p>

<p>Evidently not.</p>

<p>Um the verbal section of MCAT doesnt seem hard. I took a practice test of MCAT just for verbal section from my dad’s old PR book. I got an 11/15. (5 wrong). I have no intentions of trying the other two until i take my other AP science courses.</p>

<p>Keep in mind that i am a junior in high school.</p>

<p>… is that book from when your dad took the MCAT?</p>

<p>eh 7 years ago. Cant change too much (i think)</p>

<p>Your dad took the MCAT seven years ago? Weird. Anyway, 85th percentile puts you right around the brink of a medical-school-worthy score, so assuming that your story is true that’s a good score. I don’t know anything about whether the PR tests are representative.</p>

<p>CC’er: you think you’ll get into med school? HAHAHAHAHA. Let me guess, you got a decent score on your SATs and now you think you’re some genius, right? Trust me when I say this. You will be competing against a whole different group of people. Most of the kids in high school never even studied for the SATs (I assume you did. Yea, I see that blue book in your room. Don’t hide it). In fact, I remember seeing some English-learning students walk out of the same room with me after my SAT. You simply can’t make a comparison. And even if I let you have this completely false premise, there’s sooooo many more hurdles to jump to get into ANY med school. In order to be competitive you need to do research, volunteer, have leadership experience, and get a high GPA. Let’s assume, for the point of argument that you happen to do all these things. Bravo, good job. But wait, that’s not all; you actually have to value human life. With your mentality, you’ll have a really hard time lying all over your personal statement, secondaries, and interviews. But hey, maybe you’re a sociopath and you can convincingly lie to people. Again, bravo. But now what? You’re going to go to work every single day for the money? Let me remind you, you have to go to school at least 8 more years than all of your other college friends, pay off loans, and work long hours to get the type of money you’re imagining (if you’re lucky).</p>

<p>Look, only you can choose what to do with your life. All I’m saying is good luck. And when you hit 40 and realize you’re depressed, think back on this and say, “wow I was a naive kid with an inflated ego.” That’s all I ask of you.</p>

<p>This guy gets funnier and funnier by the minute. I really hope med schools understand this kid’s motives and reject him… for the sake of all patients.</p>

<p>^^^ LOL, HAHAHA I completly agree…</p>

<p>dominated by thesnowclap.</p>

<p>i am at a loss of words as to the genius that is CC’er</p>

<p>i don’t understand y u people r still arguing with this naive arrogant kid…</p>

<p>he’s some snot-nosed 17 year old who thinks he knows everything and thinks he’s the **** cause he got a 2300+ on the SAT and comes here to argue with people who have far surpassed him in common sense, life experience, medical experience, health policy experience about a topic he knows absolutely nothing about. i bet his dad, some greedy doctor who only went into the profession because he has low self esteem and wanted other asians around him to respect him, fed him a few lies and half-truths about how they’re gonna be poor if health care reform passes. and how the hell did your dad take the mcat 7 years ago…doesn’t that make him a resident??</p>

<p>we all know this kid is going to get one hell of a reality check in the near future - whether it is not getting into that “top 10” college, or if he gets in he might end up being like one of the MANY people who just can’t cut it as premed and drop it, or he might realize that the MCAT isn’t all that “easy” once he actually starts studying for it, etc etc. Nothing you guys say is going to convince this kid…time will teach him all the lessons he needs to learn and will put his massive ego in check</p>