interesting...

<p><a href="http://www.nypost.com/seven/03182007/business/fordham_drinks_in_top_spot_business_tommy_hallissey.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nypost.com/seven/03182007/business/fordham_drinks_in_top_spot_business_tommy_hallissey.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Like the article said, Fordham has strict rules so that could be the reason for so many violations. But nonetheless, as a current student, I found this interesting.</p>

<p>Parchance you'd like to see the real report?
<a href="http://ope.ed.gov/security/Search.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://ope.ed.gov/security/Search.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Methinks this provides a more accurate view of the data in question.</p>

<p>The head of Fordham Security told us about these numbers at parent orientation last year. They are high because Fordham enforces its policy on underage drinking. Kids at NYU, Columbia, St. John's etc drink plenty, I'm sure, and they would have probably have stats comparable to Fordham's if their adminstrations enforced and reported.</p>

<p>Fordham's kind of between a rock and a hard place: Enforce and report and Fordham runs the risk of being labeled New York City's party school, or turn a blind eye to underage drinking and put the kids at risk. I think Fordham is trying to do the right thing.</p>

<p>As the parent of a freshman, I know my son doesn't have the access to alcohol that kids at other schools do. I asked him if he'd ever been to a dorm party and he said they simply don't exist for underage kids. When I attended Fordham, every weekend featured a kegger at any of a multitude of dorms; I'm guessing that is no longer the case.</p>

<p>Now, I'm not naive enough to believe that underage kids don't drink at Fordham. I'm sure kids manage to sneak stuff into the freshman dorms. But I do know that the RAs are stricter than they used to be, which makes it harder for freshmen to "party" in their dorms.</p>

<p>Btw, back in the early 80s (when the legal drinking age was 18), Fordham students proudly proclaimed that they had the second largest Miller Brewery concession in NYC -- only Yankee Stadium sold more Miller Beer.</p>

<p>PMcMScot--You're absolutely right. Not long ago I found a site that listed crime statistics for the different colleges. Schools that strictly enforced their drug/alcohol rules and reported the citations, came across as having a campus full of wild, crazed partiers who did nothing but drink and smoke pot. Schools with more lenient attitudes toward drugs and alcohol, seemed comparatively peaceful and "law-abiding." In reality, the opposite is sometimes true.</p>

<p>I looked at a stats page as well. Pretty funny to see a small school of under 3000 students had more alcohol violations than all of Rutgers New Brunswick, with 26,000 kids.</p>

<p>The bad thing about drinking is that there always seems to be one or two reaaallllly stupid kids who screw it up for everyone else. If one of the dummies gets really hurt or hurts someone else then the university gets sued by the parents.</p>

<p>It's extra bad if the university (or its rep) is aware of underage drinking and doesn't interevene. Sometimes the dummies just damage property - either the school's or your's and then it has to be repaired which costs everyone more money.</p>

<p>I once saw a drunk bunch of young men streaking on my campus. One of them climbed a catwalk to flash the window of a girl's room. He fell off and badly broke his leg. He crawled under a bush and fell asleep for awhile and woke up nude to a group of people w/ flashlights aghast at his mangled leg. I still think he was pretty lucky.</p>