<p>I'm not sure whether to focus my studies in the engineering school. But I know that I want to move to CC in my first year. Is this easily possible??</p>
<p>No. And it's really not any easier to get into SEAS, despite what the acceptance rate must say. The pool is much more self-selective, shown by the much higher SAT range of accepted SEAS' students compared to CC's.</p>
<p>hmm, then that means that there is no such thing as a merit-based internal transfer in Columbia??</p>
<p>No, someone asked this question at my info session. You have to reapply completely.</p>
<p>You can transfer from SEAS to CC if you have good grades and a good reason for wanting to transfer. It's easier to do than people like to say it is. There's by no means no guarantee, and if you really KNOW you don't want to study in SEAS, go to a different school to save yourself the pain.</p>
<p>It's very doable. I know of such people. It's generally kept under wraps.</p>
<p>I think it's very easy to do.</p>
<p>It's not "very easy."</p>
<p>I think it's much harder from SEAS -> CC than the other way around.</p>
<p>hmm, what I initially aimed at was to major in financial engineering in SEAS, but later as I find that majoring in Economics would be a rather better choice, I'm more inclined to CC instead. Columbia2002, u'r implying that an internal transfer from SEAS to CC is impossible in the first year right?</p>
<p>There was a thread about this sometime ago. Fu WAS sometimes regarded as a "backdoor" into Columbia. Not so much true anymore with increased apps and all--- BUT, they still make it very hard to transfer into Columbia College than the other way around. I think Columbia2002 mentioned last year that it's pretty much regarded as an external applicant applying to Columbia College in which case there's about a 5% chance you get in. </p>
<p>But on the other hand, if you do get in the college, I suggest the Economics+IndustrialEngineering (Financial engineering umbrella major) joint degree which is perfect for those lawyers(me)/budding investment bankers =)</p>
<p>^ </p>
<p>yes its not possible in the first year. Interesting enough, CC is harder to get into than SEAS, but when you're at college, SEAS is harder than CC in terms of workload and grading.</p>
<p>Average GPA in CC is around 3.3/3.35...but for SEAS, it is around the 3.0</p>
<p>truazn8948532 - but is it possible to double major? If I matriculate SEAS, can I major in mathematics and financial engineering, and economics as a minor? And where can I find more infos on the joint degree? Thanks a lot!</p>
<p>Ungan-- You can double major BUT... it has to be within your own school (Seas/college). The Econ/IEOR major is the only one that i know of that actually connects the two schools--- but it's only available to CC'ers.</p>
<p>The College joint programs are as follows:</p>
<p>Economics-Mathematics
Economics-Operations Research
Economics-Philosophy
Economics-Political Science
Economics-Statistics
Political Science-Statistics </p>
<p>The engineering school (as it's name implies) only have engineering majors (no natural/social sciences). There are no minors as I understand either, only "Concentrations". And as I understand (someone plz correct me if im wrong), that's limited to majors at your respective school as well.</p>
<p>Concentrations are basically minors.</p>
<p>Ungan by the way, starting with the class of 2008 I believe you now have to APPLY to get into the Financial Engineering major your sophmore year. You can't even choose it anymore. Getting too popular I suppose.</p>
<p>There's a lot of wrong info on this thread....</p>
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<p>Actually harder the other way. Not that many people want to go CC-->SEAS. But you can't do the transfer if you haven't taken most of the math/science because you'll be really behind and unable to graduate in 4 years.</p>
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I initially aimed at was to major in financial engineering in SEAS, but later as I find that majoring in Economics would be a rather better choice, I'm more inclined to CC instead.
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<p>Lets explore this some more -- why are you thinking Econ is a "rather better choice"? Is it the majors themselves? Is it the CC vs. SEAS curriculums? Do you think this will affect your job opportunities? This is really the crux of it all.</p>
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Columbia2002, u'r implying that an internal transfer from SEAS to CC is impossible in the first year right?
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<p>Most people transfer AFTER their first year. I'm not sure if you can transfer after one semester. It's probably unlikely because you'll have to apply right when you get there and you'll have no grades.</p>
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<p>Nope, I've mentioned several times that that's a myth; other people like to throw that around. As I've said on this thread, it's not "very easy" to do but it's also "easier to do than people like to say it is."</p>
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CC is harder to get into than SEAS, but when you're at college
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<p>I wouldn't be so sure about that. SEAS does have a higher average SAT score and a more competitive applicant pool. CC is harder in the sense that it's just so hard to stand out with numbers alone and even good ECs too.</p>
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is it possible to double major?
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<p>To do a double major (one SEAS, one CC), you have to do both the CC and SEAS cores plus the requirements for each major. A number of people do this via 5 year programs -- the "4-1" or "3-2" programs. (Technically these are "dual degree" programs rather than "double majors".) If you're really really ambitious, you could theoretically kill yourself and do it in 4 years.</p>
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If I matriculate SEAS, can I major in mathematics and financial engineering, and economics as a minor?
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<p>Yes. SEAS offers a variety of minors in CC / liberal arts departments:</p>
<p>Econ is only 6 classes really:</p>
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There are no minors as I understand either, only "Concentrations".
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<p>Nope, see above.</p>
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And as I understand (someone plz correct me if im wrong), that's limited to majors at your respective school as well.
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<p>Nope, see above.</p>
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I believe you now have to APPLY to get into the Financial Engineering major your sophmore year. You can't even choose it anymore. Getting too popular I suppose.
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<p>I don't think it's a popularity issue. I've been told that it's because it's a pretty intense program and they want to make sure the people wanting to do it are able to handle the work.</p>
<p>Whoa, you practically answered every question there is to answer.</p>
<p>Thanks for the help, Columbia2002.</p>
<p>I heard that if you do Financial Engineering though, you're not allowed to double major or even take a concentration - is it really that intense a major, or am I just following incorect information? Thanks!</p>
<p>From the viewbook, it seemed as if Financial Engineering left little room for electives.</p>
<p>so basically, it's an extremely focused, single area of study type major?</p>