<p>I want to run an international, non-denominational, non-profit organization (eventually). Looking at Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell, and Penn--is it better to try the relations route or the business one?</p>
<p>You could do international business, haha.</p>
<p>No, if you plan on running non-profit organizations, you'll probably be looking to getting a Masters in Non-Profit Admin/Management, that being said, I think the major you want is </p>
<p>Public Affairs/Public Administration, that is the major that generally combines business with government relations. But, from what I learned in my college search, you have to look at each Public Affairs program specifically, some specialize in non-profit organizations and others in governmental programs/agencies. </p>
<p>you'll have to ask others for the top programs and which schools are better in which area. Pretty sure Princeton (Woodrow Wilson) and Indiana are top. Here check this profile out:</p>
<p>thanks so much , Cre8tive1! ubetteraccept-me, it's hard to find internat'l business in an ivy--the closest I've found is Penn's Huntsman program, which (as you'll find in other threads) is insanely tough to get into.</p>
<p>Actually, now that I think about it, I don't think international business is your best shot. My brother is majoring in it, and it's really just the combination of a buisness and a language; there really isn't any IR stuff involved. I'd go with cre8tive's idea.</p>
<p>just to add to the discussion,</p>
<p>regardless of where you go for undergrad, if you're planning to ever pursue a professional degree, Yale School of Management is best known for their non-profit management program.</p>
<p>take a look at this sample of their courses:</p>
<p>hope this helps =)</p>
<p>Public Affair Programs:</p>
<p>Princeton (Woodrow Wilson)
Indiana University-Bloomington
USC (SPPD)
Miami (OH)
Elon University***
Fordham
NYU
George Mason
University of Pittsburgh (Accel like Clark's <a href="http://www.gspia.pitt.edu/ProspectiveStudents/AcademicPrograms/UndergraduateCGS.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.gspia.pitt.edu/ProspectiveStudents/AcademicPrograms/UndergraduateCGS.htm</a>)
Clark University (Accelerated B.A./MPA Program in Public Administration)
University of Arizona</p>
<p>thank you thank you thank you! my head has been swimming lately trying to find useful info from college websites (CollegeBoard and the Princeton Review can only take me so far). icebox4--how do you like Brown? ubetteraccept_me--where does your brother go?</p>
<p>I love Brown. There are so many reasons why I said that, but to name a couple that I can pull on top of my head: great academics, gorgeous campus, mature & driven friends. However, I've only studied in one university, so of course I am not able to speak in comparison to other universities. =)</p>
<p>I was thinking about your interest in non-profit organizations, and remembered something that might interest you. Brown has a new concentration called COE (Commerce, Organization and Enterpreneurship). It offers 3 tracks, and one of them is Organizational Studies. It's a good mix of several departments: Economics, Sociology and Public Policy. I think it can provide good background in establishing organizations/businesses. Take a look at the curriculum, you might like it:</p>
<p><a href="http://coe.brown.edu/concentration/org.html%5B/url%5D">http://coe.brown.edu/concentration/org.html</a></p>
<p>edit: typo</p>
<p>icebox4--coe looks fantastic! I'm so excited--since I already visited the campus, I like knowing that there's a major for me that's not Brown's most popular (was looking at international relations; now not). How's the food on campus, though? I heard it's not too good. Is the winter weather horrible? (I'm from central new york, so I can take the snow, but I'm not used to a city.)</p>
<p>Does anyone know of nonprofit tracks at Dartmouth, Cornell, or Penn?</p>
<p>Haha. Well, I think the food on campus is not that great, I must concede. I once visited Cornell, and the food blew me away. It was so good. </p>
<p>However, most people just suck it up and stick with the meal plan. After all, dining halls make great socializing venues. And if you're really can't eat more of Ratty food (our biggest dining hall is called the Ratty), there are plenty of caf</p>
<p>I'm telling you, really, Princeton is your ceiling for this.</p>
<p>Dartmouth has the Rockafeller Center, but that is only graduate.</p>
<p>I'm guessing a management degree from Wharton would be befitting, but talk to someone else about Wharton, I'm not in that ally.</p>
<p>For Cornell, you can see if their PAM program (<a href="http://www.human.cornell.edu/che/PAM/Academics/Undergraduate/index.cfm%5B/url%5D">http://www.human.cornell.edu/che/PAM/Academics/Undergraduate/index.cfm</a>) or School of ILR (<a href="http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/explore/academics/%5B/url%5D">http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/explore/academics/</a>) are of interest to you.</p>
<p>all right, Cre8tive1--I'll look more into Princeton. It comes off as so snobby, though--I really don't want anyone to think I'm a snob if I go there or just be surrounded by them (I'd have to get accepted first, so this is totally hypothetical). But I will definitely check it out. :) thanks for the tip. And what do you mean by "ceiling"?</p>
<p>icebox4--yeah, Cornell yogurt is amazing. I read that Brown doesn't have air conditioning--does that ever get unbearable?</p>
<p>Princeton takes a visit to test the level of snoobishness, personally they took to many stabs at Stanford on the tours alone for my dad's liking. I'm sure a visit will tell you yes or no, and it's not to far from Philadelphia. I'd did Swathmore & Princeton in the same day, you could probably do Penn & Princeton.</p>
<p>Hmm. I have a fan in my room for those days when the world is like a huge frying pan. There are days when it gets really unbearable, and then I'd usually just run to the library and study there. There aren't too many of those days during the regular schoolyear though. Summer school, is a different matter.</p>
<p>thanks, guys!</p>