International Student

<p>So, I'm from New Zealand, looking to apply to a number of universities in the US.</p>

<p>I am 20, and I have completed 2 years in BE(hons) Electrical Engineering.</p>

<p>My question is, if I get into Harvard, what financial aid is available for non-citizens, and also do all students live on campus?? (in NZ we live in flats after freshman).</p>

<p>Will it be weird not being straight out of high school and being a freshman?</p>

<p>Does Harvard offer exchanges? (one of my friends got an exchange to Berkley)</p>

<p>What is the run-down on SATs? I looked up some practice SATs (maths and such) and they seemed rediculously easy.. I basically got 100% on everything until I got bored..?</p>

<p>Any information is helpful!! I can't seem to get any headway whatsoever, I emailed the admissions office looking for some advice.</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>Arrogance is one quality I hope you will not present in your application as you did in your post. However, you will prove this wrong by getting a 2400 on your SAT’s coupled with a 800x5 SAT2’s. I don’t think it will matter that you are a bit older, some are younger a year or two and vice verca. I think that you will get your need met in terms of financial aid. I think that if two families with the exact income etc, one international and one domestic they would get equally much in financial aid. Most of the students live on campus, but why would you want to spend extra money on an apartment when asking questions about financial aid?</p>

<p>Exchange, do you mean transfer?</p>

<p>Be sure to advocate and promote yourself and your strengths in your application, and try to make yourself stand out and be honest and present your genuine self in the application.</p>

<p>Harvard doesn’t accept transfers though :(</p>

<p>Ok, I didn’t think I was being arrogant, but it was not arrogance which made me ask that, more incredulity… Can I really expect a question like this on the true SATs, or is this not a fair representation (taken from 4tests.com)</p>

<p>What is the average (arithmetic mean) of 4x + 5, 7x-6,and -8x+2?</p>

<p>Also, can I get some more information, you mentioned 2400 on SATs, so thats 3 tests which everyone has to sit? But what are SAT2s?</p>

<p>An exchange is where 2 universities will exchange a student each, so if there was someone from harvard who wanted to come to NZ, we would simply swap. If no one has heard of it, chances are they don’t do them there.</p>

<p>Thanks for the responses…</p>

<p>A second-year honours Electrical Engineering student is arrogant if he says that he’ll ace a test designed for high school juniors? Let’s get real, here.</p>

<p>Harvard does not offer transfers nor exchanges. SAT2’s are subject related tests such as Mathematics, Physics, BIology, Chemistry, Modern Languages, Literature, History etc.</p>

<p>All top universitites require 3, and some 2. They usually only take your best 2, respective 3, scores.</p>

<p>And yes you can expect those questions as the first or second question, meaning the easiest or easier one (difficulty level 1-2). There are difficulty levels ranging from 1 to 5 on the SAT.</p>

<p>Ok thanks for the informative post reptil, I guess I have to have a look at some SAT2s practice tests now</p>

<p>I’ll recommend that you buy either Kaplan’s or Princeton Review books: they are the best.</p>

<p>I bought all my books except the bluebook on amazon.co.uk.</p>

<p>Once again, YOU CANT APPLY TO HARVARD! Because they currently do not accept transfers and since you have already attended some form of higher education after high school, you’re not eligible to apply anymore. Sorry.</p>

<p>Hi, I am new here and am in a similar situation to digsnz. I am 17, will graduate this june with the IB Diploma and have previously not considered the U.S. for undergraduate studies. However, after a visit last christmas break I have changed my mind and decided to apply to three or four colleges. I did not sit any SATs but am planning to do so this june/october. Nonetheless, I will attend a univerrsity in Switzerland and our college counsellor said it would not pose a problem, concerning Harvard College now, since I would be applying as a “First-Year-Student” and would eventually simply drop out of the Swiss university by july 2010. Can anybody verfiy GuiltyBystander? I would have to relay that information to my counsellor then, besides saving time writing to the admission office for a definite answer, IB exams start in two weeks^^</p>

<p>If you have started studying higher education (meaning above high school) you will be recognized as a transfer student. And take a look at this:</p>

<p>[Harvard</a> College Admissions Office: Prospective Students](<a href=“http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/prospective/transfer/index.html]Harvard”>http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/prospective/transfer/index.html)</p>

<p>“We encourage admitted students to take a one-year deferral to travel, pursue a special project or activity, work or spend time in another meaningful way - provided they do not enroll in a degree-granting program at another college or university.”</p>

<p>“No student who has received a bachelor’s degree - or other first university degrees - from any other university, whether American or foreign, can be admitted to Harvard College.”</p>

<p>Ah thanks, the Ministry of Education in Switzlerand said that transfer students are defined as those who wish to “continue” their studies at another university, keeping their credit, transferring from “2nd year to 2nd year” so to say, and not “beginning” studying somewhere else, anyway different cultures, different rules I guess. I was just confused because Yale says </p>

<p>Should I apply as a freshman or as a transfer student?
If you have a high school diploma or GED and you have less than one year of transferable post-secondary-school college credit, then you should apply as a freshman candidate. </p>

<p>Different question - If I have to serve in the military - in Switzerland its obligatory - I wouldn’t be a transfer student, however I also would not be a high school student. A friend from Germany is doing a gap year, as part of his “Zivildienst” (Alternative to the German Armed Forces) and is doing archaeology while studying Middle Eastern Studies at a local University in Isreal, would we still be able to apply though? I guess the situation is a little complicated and we should contact the offices directly. Does anybody have any any experience with such complexity?</p>

<p>Here’s your answer disbelievable:</p>

<p>“We encourage admitted students to take a one-year deferral to travel, pursue a special project or activity, work or spend time in another meaningful way - provided they do not enroll in a degree-granting program at another college or university. Deferrals for two-year obligatory military service are permitted.”</p>

<p>Hm, thank you for the time you take to answer me. However I musst point out that it says “admitted students” which in this essay by Dean Fitzsimmons refers to students having a place at Harvard College…</p>

<p>I think that as long as you don’t start any degree-rewarding study or enroll at any university, you should be fine.</p>

<p>And you can apply now before serving in the military. And maybe apply each and every year to increase chances! :D</p>

<p>Transfer Admission Announcement
Harvard College has suspended indefinitely its transfer admissions process. Following the most thorough examination of its residential housing in Harvard’s history, the Dean of Harvard College concluded in 2008 that the Harvard Houses cannot successfully accommodate any new transfer students. Instead, the College has embarked on a planning process for substantial capital investment to renovate and revitalize its residential spaces.</p>

<p>In important respects, undergraduate education at Harvard College is residential in character. Students learn a great deal from the residential experience and contact with one another, complementing the experience of classrooms and laboratories. Harvard does not admit transfer students to non-residential status.</p>

<p>The College offers a Visiting Undergraduate Program, which enables students to enroll in Harvard College for academic credit at their home institutions. Visiting Undergraduates are not ordinarily offered College housing, and they are not permitted subsequently to transfer to Harvard as degree candidates. </p>

<p>A Message to our Transfer Applicants</p>

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<p>I am sorry :frowning: You could always try Harvard for grad school! </p>

<p>@ Disbelievable: You can apply of course, as long as you don’t attend any university prior.</p>