International students: Which college should I apply? (transfer from Taiwan)

And yes, if you told NTU alums in the US your plan, they would laugh at you.

This is why blindly relying on rankings is stupid.

BTW, by “best job possible”, I mean that a position in MBB consulting (or some other international strategy consulting company), an international bank, or the Big 4 are ideal.

Finally, I hope you will realize that there is not one ranking from which you can determine whether School A is better than School B. It all depends on your plans, goals, and who you are.
As people have been discussing on another thread, prestige, how much it matters, and opportunity (outside of Harvard, MIT, and maybe Stanford) are heavily industry-, region-, and context-dependent.

So no, no one in the US (besides people from Taiwan) would know how good NTU is, but I would say that your path to an MBA from an M7 b-school is far better coming out of NTU than coming out of, say, ASU.

Actually the rankings are reference for the HR dept in the working world, so its not completely stupid.

If you plan to find a job in Taiwan in the future and know you will feel completely satisfied with the degrading salaries Taiwanese companies are paying, complete NTU by all means.

But if you plan to work in the US or some other country in the future, make sure you transfer to another univ that is ranked higher than NTU. Sure, the quality of education might be better in NTU…but to some HR person in the hiring US or UK company, they are not going to give a ~beep~. The name of the uni on your degree is the brand of quality you will be representing…and I guarantee you most never heard of NTU.

Sorry, I might sound like I am NTU bashing, but I am just being realistic. Nobody recognizes Taiwan as a country except Taiwanese people (and I am Taiwanese). So only a handful of people outside of Taiwan will have heard of NTU and recognize it as a prestigious uni. Definitely don’t care whether NTU alums will laugh, because you should only do what you think is best for yourself (Most US uni won’t even recognize NTU credits so whats the use of completing courses at NTU anyways?). If you KNOW you will be continuing higher education or working outside of Taiwan for the long term, might as well start looking to jump to other unis that are ranked higher than NTU.

Don’t care what your consult say. This consultant obviously doesn’t know US uni’s have quotas for international students and just maybe you can squeeze right in to meet their quota. Always try what you think is best for you, don’t listen to others…unless they are preventing you from hurting yourself, of course. In this case, that consultant is doing more harm than good.

Good Luck and always DISRUPT!

p.s. have a look at UT Austin, ranked “best bang for the buck” with a business school ranked right up there with the ivy leagues =)

如果是NTU轉美國的話 ASU, BU, Case Western, Emory, Georgia Tech, U Maryland 基本上是蠻容易的。
不過要轉的話還是目標放高點吧? UC Berkeley的 HAAS也可以報名啊,世界頂尖的business department(雖然錄取率非常低), UCLA business economics, USC school of Business, NYU, Boston College, Cornell, Warton, 等等。
妳GPA是不高,但是美國大學轉學通常很注重校外活動,工作,先關研究,等等。

在轉學裡(至少在加州),錄取的優先順位大致為以下:Community College in that state, 4-year university in that state, community college and 4-year universities from Out of State, AND THEN international university transfer. 所以,國際轉學是比較吃虧,也比較challenging的。

加油,祝你好運,最後的學末要出色,自傳更是重要。 TOEFL能有100 就很棒了!

我是轉進伯克利的轉學生。

@myinput, those rankings are definitely not what HR departments use.
And companies in the US (with non-Taiwanese hiring) would not know about NTU, but American grad schools definitely would. You should care what NTU alums in the US would say because they have more working experience in the US than you do, @myinput.

I also don’t see why you can’t get a job at an international company (consulting, banking, Big 4, or even marketing) out of NTU.

Again, a path to an M7 MBA (or other prestigious grad school that Americans respect) is more likely out of NTU than out of ASU/UMD/etc.

So starting in the US earlier may not actually be the smartest option long-term. It certainly would be a more expensive option.

Oh, but being full-pay as an international gives you a boost among the international pool, so if you are going to transfer (and pay the extra money on top of the American MBA which I expect you to be getting anyway), aim for the 5 I mentioned. UT-Austin is OK too. On par with Emory.