<p>It would be a blessing if the $53,000 school that accepted me gave me $50,000. The EFC would’ve been less than the amount my parents would pay for my safety (CUNY). Seriously? People are complaining to pay a measly $1200 (unless circumstances prevent it from being done and people just <em>refuse</em> to pay? <em>rolls eyes</em> My EFC is going to be about $12,000, I say they’re lucky.</p>
<p>Also, OP, <em>relax</em>. Don’t say something that can incited anger in others. </p>
<p>I’m a URM (Black, specifically Afro-Caribbean), and I’m looking into asking the school to increase financial aid to maybe lower the EFC to $4,000 or less. Let’s see how this goes.</p>
<p>Good luck, Rosary. Mom2, not sure about Villanova U’s international aid but they are on the Princeton Review list for schools whose own students vote them worst for FA. MommaJ is the only one who mentioned Villanova in this thread trying to instigate, confusing 2 separate issues since she stalks me here and looked up my postings on that forum–completely different topic, she just thrives on annoyance. BTW MommaJ get your facts straight, I never even applied to Villanova, and apparently they don’t “reject” anybody but defer them to a waitlist. Creating your own controversial thread would be more thought-provoking than attempting to hijack others. FAIL</p>
<p>“MommaJ is the only one who mentioned Villanova in this thread trying to instigate, confusing 2 separate issues since she stalks me here and looked up my postings on that forum–completely different topic, she just thrives on annoyance.”</p>
<p>jrteos: your posting history is available for all to see and if you don’t like it, don’t post here. You came on the Villanova Forum specifically to stir up trouble, and the offensive posts you made there are completely relevant to your contentious observations here. </p>
<p>Seems YOU are the one who thrives on annoying others. If you are indeed the reincarnation of Justin101, who eerily resembles you when it comes to spewing divisive comments, please get over your myriad resentments and find a new hobby.</p>
<p>Kelly37: well, isn’t the pot calling the kettle <don’t get=“” uppity,=“” self-censoring=“”>…and right back at you, duh this is a Message Board for opinions and if YOU don’t like it you know what you can do with your self-righteousness. If you bothered to read that thread before it was taken down, there were MANY who posted in agreement who added other examples. No, I’m not the same as the other poster you harassed who was disgruntled about blah biddy blah with nothing to back up his claims/numbers, whereas I referenced things posted right here on CC. You have as much right to disagree with me as I have to point out the obvious.
racket: I should be flattered to have another stalker but you just need a life, you only have 2 posts and surprise, you’ve posted me at least twice. Obviously I have touched a nerve lol you are all keeping these issues fresh so thank you for keeping this thread on the first page!</don’t></p>
<p>I think you need to calm down… technically, I’m an international student myself even though I’ve lived here for 11 years, and I can tell you that financial aid has gotten me rejected from a lot of the top schools (williams, tufts, swarthmore, Penn). I really don’t see why you are complaining about 2 random students who may or may not be telling the truth</p>
<p>You stated in a previous thread that you were accepted at Dartmouth but cannot attend because you did not receive any financial aid (meaning that Dartmouth believes that your family has the income and assets to pay full freight).</p>
<p>How do you feel financial aid got you rejected when Swarthmore and Williams are need blind to international students and promises to meet 100% demonstrated need? Even at Penn and Tufts which are not need blind, apparently your parents income/assets demonstrate their ability to be full pay. Financial aid or having a financial need was not the reason you were denied from these schools.</p>
<p>No, Swarthmore, Williams, Penn and Tufts are not need blind in admissions for intl’s. Only a select few colleges are. The acceptance % greatly reduces for intl’s seekin financial aid. Some colleges in fact asked me to remove my request for fa to increase my chances of getting accepted.</p>
<p>I’m pretty sure Dartmouth’s decision was a mistake, because they’re asking us to pay over half of our annual income, which doesn’t seem reasonable… We’re also still paying on a house and have no other sources of income/secretly stored hoards of cash/recently discovered backyard diamond mines</p>
<p>I’m not trying to say I shouldn’t have to, but my initial premise was that you can’t lump every intl applicant together due to TWO people you read on CC. Most of us are paying our fair share. Seems like you’re misunderstanding my point</p>
<p>Even at all of the other schools, you stated your family’s income was between 100k-200k. If you are on the higher end of that range, your family does not seem to have a lot of demonstrated need, so again, need was not a decision in wheter or not to admit you.</p>
<p>*We’re also still paying on a house and have no other sources of income/secretly stored hoards of cash/recently discovered backyard diamond mines *</p>
<p>I suspect that when a need-blind full need school doesn’t give an int’l aid, it’s because it didn’t feel that is was able to truthfully determine that the family had reported all income sources and assets. There are countries where much is earned in the black market so incomes are often way under reported. I student recently told me that altho he did get full aid from one of these schools, his family is quite affluent (taking month-long expensive vacations every summer, etc) but their “reportable” income is very low because the family earns its money on the black market. To say that I was a bit disgusted is an understatement.</p>
<p>Frankly, I think it is hard to determine actual income/assets for some students from some countries…I think that is why we have seen a lot of kids complaining that they expected full-need, but didn’t get it. Perhaps too many things weren’t adding up — such as where the person lived, where they went to school, the kind of ECs they did, etc.</p>
<p>OP: Completely wrong and skewed opinion. I can’t speak for URM but I am an Int’l student. First of all, being a needy int’l student is NOT a good thing. Only about 6 universities in the US currently are needblind for int’ls, meaning at anywhere else, being a poor int’l will get you rejected if you aren’t highly exceptional. At most colleges, the admit rate for int’ls is about half of what it is for domestic applicants.</p>
<p>Please don’t make such negative generalizations because of the one or two cases that are the exceptions and not the rule.</p>
<p>On a personal note, I was accepted to Cornell University as an Int’l without any financial aid because of their “limited resources” for int’ls. Needless to say, I will not be attending. So no, students like me do not have money thrown at us and I would appreciate if you took the time to realize that money is an issue for EVERYONE, not just you. Thank you.</p>
<p>There is limited financial aid out there for international students, so limited that I have no problems with what is going that direction. As to fraud, and complaints, those always come in any situation.</p>
<p>You seriously can’t figure that out? Have you ever heard of a thing called a global economy? Colleges need more than ethnic diversity from within the US if we are to truly learn from one another. Also…most of these colleges have a commitment to help make the world a better place. You should read their mission statements, then you may have a better understanding.</p>
<p>^^^ mtnmomma you’re free to make donations to fund college for international students. Just don’t go raising tuition on my kids to help funnel money to them. Oh, the schools is welcome to get “global diversity” by enrolling full-pay internationals.</p>
<p>Thats certainly true sybbie, but couldn’t you say that for all schools? That the VERY best will get admitted regardless? Technically, they’re not need blind. Who knows, maybe I’m rationalizing.</p>
<p>Thats a possibility, mom2college. I live in the US and have for 11 years (and holy crap there was a HUGE thunder clap that just shook my room), but if people do do that that is certainly disgusting and unfair to other students. FooMonChew, I would answer BUT i highly doubt anything other people or I say will convince you…</p>
<p>Less about me though, I’ll just keep hitting up Dartmouth’s fa office and plead for the scraps =). Good luck all, please don’t misinterpret what I said and cheers!</p>
<p>Since Dartmouth “meets need” then there has to be a reason that your aid is odd. Do you have a non-custodial parent? Or, maybe they just made a big ole mistake somewhere. </p>
<p>If your family’s income is simple…not self-employed…small amount of equity/savings/investments, then there is no reason for the aid you got.</p>