Interviews / Likely Letter

@shivaya You are incorrect. Every single standardized test that you have taken must be submitted to them. They require everything.

olomaster98
Expect a phone call or email several days after Nov 1… Most applicants submit at the deadline date. It takes a few days for those applicants to propagate to the interviewer’s portal. (It can take as much as a week Nov. 5-7.) Then the local chair has to assign the applicant to the interviewer. Then the interviewer has to accept the assignment. If they do not accept the local alum has to reassign. That process is not immediate. The people who are being interviwed now are the early birds. They submitted early so they are now being contacted/interviewed.

I know that you all are anxious. But, there is work involved behind the scenes (described above.) Please stop being anxious. It will happen.

Remember you are important but one of many. Penn isn’t waiting to get your application so that the process begins for you. They re waiting for all applicants to finish up so that they can start their work…

Don’t forget to check your spam folder. Some interviewers use email for the initial contact.

Good luck.

Knowing me, I will completely forget about my spam folder, and never realize that my interviewer sent an email to my spam folder :stuck_out_tongue:

Thank you @amanivy.

@amanivy: Do you know (guesses) why Penn cares to know all the SAT and ACT (all scores), when they say they will only use the best ones? In that case, it seems paradoxical why Penn asks for all scores and states that they will only look at the best one(s)?

I think they want to know how many times you took it so that they can see if standardized test taking became an extracurricular or not. Just my opinion. I do see what you mean though

It kind of looks dumb unless there is something they are not clearly stating :-*

Here is what Yale said, but I think Penn’s rationale is the same.

https://www.■■■■■■■■■■■■/the-ivy-coach-blog/admissions-process/score-choice-or-no-score-choice/

@skieurope So would you say taking the SAT 3 times and improving 110 points over the second and third tries makes up for the fact I took it 3 times?

@jarrett211 IMO, taking the SAT 3 times is fine. It’s when one goes beyond that number that eyebrows get raised. Again, just my opinion.

The statement from Yale (or Upenn, etc.) is contradicting itself:-).

Either the admission staff somehow gets influenced by the # of times one has taken the tests
OR
they don’t get influenced since they keep saying that they will look at the best scores.

I can see a scenario where submitting all SAT scores makes sense. Example, if someone took SAT and got 800 in Math but lower scores in others and got 780 in reading the next time, and so on. I this case, if an IVY is looking to take the best scores, they can look at all the 3 tests and pick the best score(s).

However, if someone has a very good score in ACT, it simply doesn’t make sense to submit all SAT scores. The only answer is that admissions is looking for holes in order to construct the so-called “holistic” view.

my 2 cents.

Has anyone been contacted by an alumni for an interview?

@shivaya Im still waiting :confused: But as far as Ive heard, people have already been contacted

Wondering if anyone in this forum may have a copy of the uPenn ED agreement. I tried but couldn’t find it in my common app or uPenn application tracker. If you do, please share. I forgot to save before submission of the application.

I once heard a Admissions Officer say Penn expects about 100 pt. increase in the SAT scores the second time around.

The Admissions Office did say it is not worth the effort to take the tesst more than twice.

Not all people can afford to take the tests mulitple times to raise their scores.

Taking tests more than twice, to me, says perhaps negative things about you. .Little time managementy skills. Too obsessive.

shivaya: I can guess why they ask for all scores but it is a guess. Some think it does not make sense. My imagiantion says that taking at teast 3 times to raise your score by 10 points might say very negative things about you.

@shivaya I may be mistaken, but isn’t the Penn ED agreement the same as general Common App ED agreement? If so, I think you can access a blank PDF version in My Colleges on the Common App in the Recommenders and FERPA section. I’m not sure if that’s what you’re asking for.