Intro to Computer using Java vs MATLAB

<p>So, I have a year of experience in Java and none in MATLAB, but I'm kind of curious about MATLAB.. what are some reasons for choosing one intro class over the other?</p>

<p>Is one easier (I'm kind of thinking MATLAB might be just a bit easier since more students will have some background in Java wheras fewer will be familiar with MATLAB--however if students just sign up for what they know best there will just be fewer, more MATLAB-savvy kids in those classes anyway)?</p>

<p>Also, either class is more manageable than chem 2090, right (generally)?</p>

<p>I am hoping to take physics 112 with either chem or comp sci in the fall, and I'm trying for the least suicidal route..and seriously regretting not taking more AP exams. =/</p>

<p>MATLAB is generally considered easier. The beginning of Java will probably be easy for you because it will mostly be about syntax and the basics of object-oriented programming. I thought the class itself was still a bit harder than AP Java, though. </p>

<p>I cannot say anything about CHEM209, but PHYS112 is really not that hard if you’ve taken classical mechanics in high school. In my experience Java was noticeably harder. </p>

<p>The least suicidal route will definitely depend on what you like more and what you’re good at. If you like coding you should probably take CS. Otherwise, you might want to think about getting chemistry out of the way. (Also, the Java pool for spring is supposedly much weaker than in the fall, so you might have an easier time taking it then.) But don’t overload yourself… what is your tentative schedule like?</p>

<p>My tentative sched is kind of a lot, i think, but i really have no perspective on it. Here it is:</p>

<p>CEE 3080 Introduction To Cadd 1.0
CS 1110 Introduction To Computing Using Java 4.0
ENGRG 1050 Engineering Seminar 1.0
ENGRI 1190 Biomaterials For The Skeletal System 3.0
GERST 1105 Fws:Language Of Alchemy: The Romantic Tale 3.0
MATH 1920 Multivariable Calculus Engrs 4.0
PE 1265 Wellness & Fitness 1.0
PHYS 1112 Physics I: Mechanics 4.0
Total Credits: 21 </p>

<p>But if MATLAB is easier, I would do that, I’m def. not attached to Java. And the comment about coding group being weaker in the spring makes me think i should use the above schedule, only switch the CS class for chem 209</p>

<p>I took MV calc, Differential Eqns and 2 years of IB physics in HS so although they (MATH192 and PHYS112) wouldn’t be pieces of cake (lol the plural), they would be somewhat familiar</p>

<p>If you can wait until 2nd semester, I’d recommend taking CS 1114 - Intro to Computing using Matlab and Robotics. Very interesting course, with an awesome prof (Snavely). It’s not overly difficult, you’re just introduced to more interesting stuff. Overall, my favorite course of freshman year.</p>

<p>[Schedulizer:</a> Fall '09](<a href=“http://cornell.schedulizer.com/s.php?db=cornell_fa09&a=BW2O&sched=!7237%2CCEE3080Discussion203%2CENGRG1050Discussion214%2FENGRG1050Discussion215%2FENGRG1050Discussion217%2FENGRG1050Discussion231%2FENGRG1050Discussion238%2CENGRI1190Lecture001%2CGERST1105Seminar101%2CMATH1920Discussion209%2FMATH1920Discussion210%2CMATH1920Lecture005%2FMATH1920Lecture006%2FMATH1920Lecture007%2FMATH1920Lecture008%2CPE1265Lecture002%2CPHYS1112Discussion204%2FPHYS1112Discussion205%2CPHYS1112Laboratory405%2FPHYS1112Laboratory406%2CPHYS1112Lecture002]Schedulizer:”>http://cornell.schedulizer.com/s.php?db=cornell_fa09&a=BW2O&sched=!7237%2CCEE3080Discussion203%2CENGRG1050Discussion214%2FENGRG1050Discussion215%2FENGRG1050Discussion217%2FENGRG1050Discussion231%2FENGRG1050Discussion238%2CENGRI1190Lecture001%2CGERST1105Seminar101%2CMATH1920Discussion209%2FMATH1920Discussion210%2CMATH1920Lecture005%2FMATH1920Lecture006%2FMATH1920Lecture007%2FMATH1920Lecture008%2CPE1265Lecture002%2CPHYS1112Discussion204%2FPHYS1112Discussion205%2CPHYS1112Laboratory405%2FPHYS1112Laboratory406%2CPHYS1112Lecture002)</p>

<p>I’m unsure if that is a public link, so I added the class list below
That is what I am thinking about for this fall. I could drop the Cadd class for the sake of reducing credits, but that’s not really pivotal. Cest posible?</p>

<p>Oh and hoosnose cs 114 does look best of the possibilities, I hope it’s offered again spring 2010.</p>

<p>CEE 3080 Introduction To Cadd 1.0
ENGRG 1050 Engineering Seminar 1.0
ENGRI 1190 Biomaterials For The Skeletal System 3.0
GERST 1105 Fws:Language Of Alchemy: The Romantic Tale 3.0
MATH 1920 Multivariable Calculus Engrs 4.0
PE 1265 Wellness & Fitness 1.0
PHYS 1112 Physics I: Mechanics 4.0
CHEM 2090: Intro to Chemistry for Engineers 4.0
Total Credits: 21</p>

<p>Most people a) do not take Chem and Physics concurrently</p>

<p>and b) do not take ENGRI and CS concurrently</p>

<p>21 credits is a lot for first semester. You will have to petition to get it.
Drop one of the 3 or 4 credits and you’ll get down to 18, and that’ll be more manageable.</p>

<p>I had a similar semester spring of my Freshman year - it’s really 5 classes, which is the important number to look at. The specific number of credits isn’t that important, and your 1 credit classes will probably not be that intense (my PE that semester, bowling, was basically my break in the day).</p>

<p>5-class days will really start to wear on you. A semester like this is doable, and if you’re going to do something like this, its much better to do it early on, before the classes get tougher and the workload for each class gets much more intense (and for these big lecture classes, its typically not a big deal if you miss lecture once in a while). My last semester was 16 credits, and at times it felt harder than the 21 credit semester.</p>

<p>One question to ask yourself - with AP and that kind of semester, I’m graduating a full year early. Do you really need to put that much work into a semester? By all means, go for it if you’re thinking about graduating a semester/year early or double majoring in some intense majors. But if you’re just doing this without much of a purpose, there’s not too much of a reason. </p>

<p>But don’t get me wrong - I always feel that its better to challenge yourself and drop a course than to never try at all.</p>

<p>Matlab is for sissies.</p>

<p>I just want to try to clarify why I am cramming in these credits. I am currently getting a wonderful financial aid package, but in the fall of my junior year my older sister will no longer be a college student, and I have this gnawing fear that I will be expected to pay almost 4 times what I’m currently paying.</p>

<p>On the other hand, my financial aid could still remain manageable after she graduates… I just don’t know. Also I’m interested in, but not fiercely pursuing, a higher level degree after I get my bachelors’. I mean, I recognize I might be being a bit overzealous, and that’s why I’m trying to get other students’ opinions.</p>

<p>Is it required to have a petition once you reach a certain level of credits? How complicated is that process, and should I have done it prior to pre-enrollment? What is the credit limit that you must hit before you need a petition, if it does go by credit amounts? (ie if I were to drop cee3080 and only have 20 credits, would I be more likely to be able to get through pre-enrollment?)</p>

<p>in the COE the limit before you need to petition is either 21 or 22 IIRC, I forget which.</p>

<p>the engineering handbook says the limit is 23. i went by that limit as i made my schedule, though it ended up being only 21.</p>