<p>As Kelley uses the same faculty for grad and undergrad I'd think that's a pretty good indication of their strengths. The same site has a detailed placement report for undergrad business majors. Look around. No I did not go to IU except to interview grads for the firm.</p>
<p>As I mentioned earlier with regards to Kelley (from their placement report) 22 out of 1,098 business seniors that reported (92% of class) at IU got I-bank jobs...about 2%. </p>
<p>Indeed Kelley is a good school but with regards to INVESTMENT BANKING RECRUITING (the title of the thread) it is a at best a third tier school in ibank recruiting...</p>
<p>Yea but when i question about Kelley I am accused of having a beef with IU....hmmmmmm. Thanks bern700.....for once again pointing out the facts. It seems unfair to compare MBA stats and the resume of profs.....not undergrad to undergrad and curriculum. Great Profs can be compelled to participate in curriculum that doesn't stand up to the top competition. I mean why do folks build a department/school reputation*** Curriculum, quality of faculty/student and success in market place.</p>
<p>Kelleys got this..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kelley.iu.edu/ibw/%5B/url%5D">http://www.kelley.iu.edu/ibw/</a></p>
<p>neither one counts towards finance.....field trips to industry. What is the selection process for these young turks with the fancy photos on line?? Is this pay for play or highly selective? I can read what the claim is but I don't see stats for how many apply and the numbers. Looks like a nice opportunity and they seem to be making a presence.</p>
<p>again 22 out of 1,098 Kelley students got Ibanking jobs...truly amazing. Can people get it through their heads that kelley is a third tier ibanking recruiting school...it is in no way an ibanking hunting ground. Ibank hunting grounds include Ivys, top LACs, other top privates (Gtown,Duke,Northwestern,Chicago,etc.), and some TOP publics (unlike IU) like Mich, Berkeley, UVA, etc. </p>
<p>Kelley is a third tier ibanking recruiting school. PERIOD. Discussion over.</p>
<p>So is U of I third tier as well? Seems like alot of their grads go into consulting and Ibanking, and it's getting harder and harder to get accepted into their college of business at U of I. The new dean wants to make it as hard as to get into as the engineering.</p>
<p>do these investment banking firms recruit at Cornell?</p>
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again 22 out of 1,098 Kelley students got Ibanking jobs ... Kelley is a third tier ibanking recruiting school. PERIOD. Discussion over.
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I have a huge bias towards attending top tier schools if possible ... but I do not believe you can draw this conclusion from this data. The IB applicant pools are too different ... Wharton students on average are much stronger then Kelley students. The correct comparison would be the success rate getting IB jobs of students of similar quality ... and I would guess this would be much-much closer. Close but not even, because the IB and consulting folks go to top tier schools (private, LAC, and public) first and then branch out. But I believe a highly motivated top student can do just as well as coming form other good programs ... as long as they blow the doors off the good program ... it's tougher beeing seen but the top-top students will eventually be seen.</p>
<p>tpec, ru talking about indiana or illinois, b/c if ur talking about indiana, seriously get a LIFE. Kids in my school have gotten in out-of-state with 900-1100 SAT scores, come on dude, seriously, give it up trying to play that school as being like mich or berk, b/c it simply isn't. In addition, do a lot of firms reallly recruit at Northwestern, b/c i was bored one afternoon, looked up a lot of recruiting schedules, chicago made every one, but NW didn't make nearly half of them.</p>
<p>Of course B-ball. Going Ivy (econ major), Williams/ Amherst, or the TOP b-schools like Wharton/ Ross/ Stern/ Sloan are the best ways into I-banking.</p>
<p>The 22 in the IB program do not represent all the IU students getting IB jobs. You need to go through the entire placement list. Also they did much better with GS than UVa did.</p>
<p>Im talking about Illinois, thats why I said U OF I.</p>
<p>Slipper, it is not necessary to go to an Ivy League for an econ major to get a job with an IBank. Econ majors at schools like Chicago, Georgetown, Michigan and Northwestern are just as popular among IBank recruiters as the Ivies. When I graduated from Michigan, I would estimate over 10% of my class got jobs with IBanks and most of my fellow classmates did not even apply to IBanks. Some went on to get a PhD in Economics, others went straight to Law school and many joined think tanks. But of the 300 or so Econ students who graduated with me, close to 20 (that I know of) joined major IBanks, mainly JP Morgan, Lehman Brothers. Goldman Sachs and Lazard Freres. Furthermore, a handfull I knew had offers, but chose to attend top Econ PhD programs or top Law School instead. From what I gather, Econ majors at Chicago and Northwestern are just as popular among IBanks.</p>
<p>BBall, Cornell is a major hunting ground for IBanks. All Ivies are. </p>
<p>Although Kelley is not a major hunting ground for IBanks, they do recruit on campus. The odds are not as good as students attending Wharton, or Ross or Stern, but they are not that bad either.</p>
<p>the best thing you'll need is connections and the ability to kiss ass:
the top schools from what i have heard are:
the top ivies, top bschools</p>
<p>If you were to take a top student that got into Wharton and send him to Kelley he WOULD likely be one of those 22/1098 and inversely if you were to take a student from Kelley and send him to Wharton he WOULDN'T likely be one of the 108/344. Of course better students attend IVY league schools but not always. Just because you go to Kelley it doesn't decrease your chances of getting into Ibanking. Some people really misuse statistics, just because 2% get into IB doesn't mean you yourself have a 2% chance. I don't think it matters where you do you're undergrad just so long as you're comfortable. Of course its easier to get into IB from schools that recruit on campus...</p>
<p>Also the faculty teaching graduate is the same teaching undergraduate therefore the MBA statistics are good indicators of undergrad as well...</p>
<p>"The 22 in the IB program do not represent all the IU students getting IB jobs."</p>
<p>Yeah but I'd argue that out of the 9,500 or so IU seniors maybe 100 or so got ibanking jobs...and that figure is probably high. </p>
<p>While at a place like penn (not just wharton) out of 2,500 approximately 300 go into ibanking...</p>
<p>I agree Alexandre that going to any top 25 opens doors into banking, the doors seem to be just slightly bigger at the Ivies (not significantly so).</p>
<p>I just don't get how kids can say they want to be an Investment Banker when they are 16 or 17 years old. Do you even know what I-Banking is or do you just know it's prestigious and pays well?</p>
<p>When I think of someone that wants to go into I-banking, I think of someone that is money hungry, and that's it.</p>