IPEDS 2018 SAT ACT Scores Top 100, Engineering reporting schools

College Search & Selection
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@sixwhitehorses: With time, you can do this individually. For example, below you can see that engineering majors recently comprised 30 of 551 graduates of Trinity College.

https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Trinity+college&s=all&id=130590#programs

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@ucbalumnus & @merc81

“But then you have schools like CMC, Scripps, and Oberlin.”

College eng total, men, women
Scripps 2, 0, 0
Oberlin 13, 9, 4
CMC 40, 14, 26

I can’t stop them from reporting.

Guys, this is ipeds data. It’s not like I’m compiling it. It’s what the schools reported.

All I did was query their database for schools that reported engineering data.

There very well could be schools that have engineering that didn’t report it. So they won’t be listed.

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@RichInPitt

“ACT scores must be rounded up, as Caltech is 35/36 for 2018.
Yesterday at 11:59 pm edited 12:11AM”

I use the excel round() operation without decimal places so that there wont be messy fractions.

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@RichInPitt

"What does “ Highest percentage of engineering students:

Carnegie Mellon University 60”

mean?"

IPEDs CMU undergrads 6768
IPEDs CMU total undergrads eng 4028

4028/6768 = 59.51

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@merc81 Thanks. But that would be excruciatingly time consuming. I would have thought the massive IPEDS database had a simpler way to query a list of all engineering schools by enrollment. I have tried through this - https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/use-the-data - but can’t get anything close to a list of engineering schools by enrollment.

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@sixwhitehorses

That’s a very good question. It’s not straight forward.

You can’t do it from their website. At least I don’t know how.

You need a database application that understands the access format, and you need to join some tables.

There is a EF2018CP table in the database that is the fall enrollment info that contains major field of study. Engineering, Business, Medical… and specific major data for grads, undergrads, transfers, full time and part time, for all, race, gender, etc.

You have to set/hard code a EFCIPLEV value of this tables query to get undergraduate engineering data. CIP 14 data.

Now I’m wondering if I used the right value… because I was rushing on Friday and it was late. The general numbers at a glance seemed correct.

I have 60% for CMU which nearly matches payscales 66%… so.

That is all.

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With respect to CMU, IPEDS figures comport with those @RichInPitt posted in reply #18. About 26% (381/1459) of CMU’s students appear to graduate with engineering degrees.

https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Carnegie+Mellon&s=all&id=211440#programs

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@Greymeer

Thank you. That explains it. Thought I had lost my mind not being able to do it through the IPEDS website. Whew!

I found this ASEE document that, on PDf page 9, lists the largest 50 engineering undergraduate enrollments by school: https://www.asee.org/documents/papers-and-publications/publications/college-profiles/2018-Engineering-by-Numbers-Engineering-Statistics-UPDATED-15-July-2019.pdf

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Like Fordham? Maybe they are counting students in the 3+2 programs?

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Two ideas: You can download IPEDs data into excel or tableau. Or take a look at ASEE data…they have enrollment and graduation data by college…google ASEE’s engineering by the numbers report, most recent one has 2018 numbers and was published in july 2019.

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@greymeer The ASEE database tends to be a better tool for generating engineering specific statistics. Unfortunately, they do not provide public access to the raw data for generating reports, but they do provide a pretty good user interface for extracting data on individual schools which includes the SAT scores for just the students enrolled in engineering .
http://profiles.asee.org/

Here is the latest ASEE “Engineering by the numbers” summary report:
https://ira.asee.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/2018-Engineering-by-Numbers-Engineering-Statistics-UPDATED-15-July-2019.pdf

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From the latest ASSE report - %Women in Engineering

  1. SUNY, Coll. of Environ. Sci. and For. 56.6%
  2. Massachusetts Institute of Technology46.6%
  3. Tulane University 46.6%
  4. Olin College of Engineering 44.2%
  5. Columbia University 41.0%
  6. Cornell University 40.7%
  7. Howard University 40.4%
  8. The George Washington University 40.0%
  9. California Institute of Technology 39.6%
  10. Dartmouth College 39.2%
  11. Harvey Mudd College 39.1%
  12. Brown University 38.6%
  13. Carnegie Mellon University 37.3%
  14. University of Southern California 37.0%
  15. Princeton University 36.0%
  16. Tufts University 35.2%
  17. Stanford University 34.9%
  18. Worcester Polytechnic Institute 34.8%
  19. Northwestern University 34.6%
  20. Southern Methodist University 34.2%
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Number of Bachelor’s Degrees Awarded to Women by School

  1. Georgia Institute of Technology 634
  2. Texas A&M University 478
  3. Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 464
  4. University of Michigan 438
  5. Purdue University 412
  6. The Pennsylvania State University 410
  7. University of California, Berkeley 374
  8. Virginia Polytech. Institute and State U. 367
  9. Massachusetts Institute of Technology 360
  10. Cornell University 360
  11. University of California, San Diego 359
  12. University of Florida 358
  13. Arizona State University 356
  14. California Poly. State U., SLO 348
  15. The University of Texas at Austin 335
  16. The Ohio State University 333
  17. University of Washington in Seattle 333
  18. North Carolina State University 332
  19. Stony Brook University 297
  20. University of Maryland, College Park 290
  21. Colorado School of Mines 283
  22. Oregon State University 278
  23. University of Southern California 276
  24. University of California, Davis 257
  25. Iowa State University 254
  26. Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 251
  27. University of Wisconsin-Madison 249
  28. Stanford University 248
  29. Missouri U. of Science and Tech. 244
  30. California State Poly. U., Pomona 243
  31. Worcester Polytechnic Institute 243
  32. University of Central Florida 233
  33. Clemson University 232
  34. University of Colorado Boulder 230
  35. University of Minnesota -Twin Cities 229
  36. The University of Alabama 227
  37. Louisiana State University 224
  38. Rutgers, The State U. of NJ, School of E. 210
  39. University of Virginia 207
  40. University of California, Irvine 203
  41. University of California, Los Angeles 199
  42. University of Pittsburgh 197
  43. Columbia University 194
  44. Michigan State University 190
  45. Northeastern University 189
  46. Lehigh University 189
  47. Florida International University 188
  48. George Mason University 180
  49. California State University, Long Beach 178
  50. Michigan Technological University 176
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Percentage of Master’s Degrees Awarded to Womenby School*

  1. North Carolina A&T State University 43.6%
  2. The Catholic University of America 43.2%
  3. Harvard University 43.1%
  4. Santa Clara University 42.2%
  5. Tufts University 41.1%
  6. Brown University 39.8%
  7. Carnegie Mellon University 38.6%
  8. Dartmouth College 36.8%
  9. Northeastern University 35.2%
  10. University of Saint Thomas 35.0%
  11. University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee 34.7%
  12. University of California, Berkeley 34.7%
  13. Cornell University 34.4%
  14. Columbia University 34.2%
  15. University of Connecticut 33.8%
  16. Northwestern University 33.7%
  17. Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 33.6%
  18. Mass. Institute of Technology 33.0%
  19. Univ. of Maryland, Baltimore County 32.9%
  20. San Jose State University 32.8%
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Percentage of Doctoral Degrees Awarded to Women by School*

  1. Colorado State University 37.5%
  2. Duke University 35.1%
  3. Boston University 34.8%
  4. University of Arizona 33.9%
  5. Vanderbilt University 33.8%
  6. Northeastern University 33.3%
  7. The Johns Hopkins University 33.1%
  8. Harvard University 32.7%
  9. University of Notre Dame 32.4%
  10. University of Colorado Boulder 32.4%
  11. Colorado School of Mines 30.4%
  12. Drexel University 29.9%
  13. California Institute of Technology 29.6%
  14. University of Virginia 29.5%
  15. Cornell University 29.3%
  16. Northwestern University 29.1%
  17. Mass. Institute of Technology 29.0%
  18. University of Houston 28.6%
  19. University of California, Berkeley 28.2%
  20. William Marsh Rice University 28.1%
  • Minimum of 50 total master’s degrees awarded. 43 schools fit in
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Percentage of Women Tenured/Tenure-Track Faculty by School*

  1. Smith College 70.0%
  2. Humboldt State University 66.7%
  3. Sweet Briar College 66.7%
  4. Saint Ambrose University 50.0%
  5. University of Hartford 40.0%
  6. University of Bridgeport 38.9%
  7. Olin College of Engineering 38.1%
  8. Seattle University 35.7%
  9. Harvey Mudd College 35.0%
  10. University of Portland 34.6%
  11. Santa Clara University 34.0%
  12. Middle Tennessee State University 33.3%
  13. Swarthmore College 33.3%
  14. Mercer University 31.4%
  15. University of Saint Thomas 31.4%
  16. San Jose State University 29.9%
  17. Roger Williams University 29.4%
  18. Texas Christian University 28.6%
  19. Howard University 28.3%
  20. Lafayette College 28.2%
  21. Saint Louis University 28.1%
  22. University of Wisconsin Platteville 28.1%
  23. University of the District of Columbia 28.0%
  24. Fairfield University 27.3%
  25. University of New Haven 27.3%
  26. Boise State University 27.1%
  27. University of the Pacific 27.0%
  28. Gannon University 26.9%
  29. University of San Diego 26.9%
  30. Bucknell University 26.6%
  31. University of Massachusetts Lowell 26.5%
  32. University of Massachusetts Dartmouth26.4%
  33. University of Washington-Tacoma 26.3%
  34. Montana State University 26.3%
  35. Tufts University 26.1%
  36. Carnegie Mellon University 25.7%
  37. New York Institute of Technology 25.6%
  38. Drexel University 25.5%
  39. University of Washington in Seattle 25.5%
  40. California State University Long Beach25.3%
  41. Hofstra University 25.0%
  42. Loyola Marymount University 25.0%
  43. Morgan State University 25.0%
  44. Tulane University 25.0%
  45. Univ. of Maryland, Baltimore County 25.0%
  46. Valparaiso University 25.0%
  47. Western Washington University 25.0%
  48. Stevens Institute of Technology 24.7%
  49. Kettering University 24.5%
  50. Oregon State University 24.1%
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@greymeer . . . for the UCs, this appears to be the approximate midpoint of the 25th and 75th SAT scores for the entire incoming freshmen student bodies. Because as you posted the engineering scores for some of the UCs in your prior thread a few months ago from information you gathered from the ASEE, it showed that UCLA had an approximate 1,515 midpoint E-student score for 2018, which I verified on the UCLA board as being the midpoint of the 25th/75th of 1,480/1,550, per ASEE, and I would assume that 2019’s should be higher.

Particularly, UCB has a midpoint score of ~1,420 as seen in its CDS for all students, and UCLA has about 1,405 m.p. (1,280 and 1,530) from its 2019 CDS. (A quick note being that this is the addition of the M and EBRW SAT components added together and are not combined scores of, say, “individuals,” but all make the mistake of adding these components together, so presumably it is excused.

Additionally, the UCs do not superscore as effectively all privates do, and some of the campuses report a very high percentage of students who report both ACT and SAT scores. So looking at SAT scores for the colleges isn’t comparing like presentations. For instance, UCLA reports ~ 125% between the two boards and used to report ~ 140%. This infers that there are a good number of extraneous lower scores mixed in with the two boards, and certainly a few higher-than-median ones also, but not as much. The essence is that the UCs purposely report lower median board scores – I believe to enable future applicants.

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@Greymeer . . . I guess in your post #3 you self-corrected, but my point still stands that you cannot list scores and expect all to have the same reporting standards.

Additionally, you appear to be listing a mix of grad and undergrad enrollments. There are some that have a greater undergrad mix and some have greater grad mix. You might be able to get the breakdown from ASEE.

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And one more point if I may… Taking the midpoint of the 25th and 75th is not a legitimate procedure; I’m not a mathematician but I can tell you this. For those, like the UCs which have 200 points difference between these two percentiles, the true median would be closer to the 75th. This is because there is a cohort which the UCs are admitting with materially lower scores perhaps ~ 30% at some of the UCs who are first-generation students, who don’t have the financing to score higher.

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Here is the GPA information from each of the CA colleges CDS in the initial list; kudos to Stanford, USC, UC Berkeley, UCLA, Santa Clara, and UCSC for providing a mean gpa in unweighted terms, per CDS instructions:

California Institute of Technology 1555 36
……2018 GPA Info: 96% top tenth; 100% top quarter

Harvey Mudd College 1525 35
……2019 GPA info: 87% top tenth; 98% top quarter
……2018 GPA info: 97% top tenth; 98% top quarter

Stanford University 1495 34
……2019 GPA Info: 3.96 mean uwgpa, 81.8% reported
……2018 GPA Info: 3.95 mean uwgpa, 88.6% reported

University of Southern California 1440 32
……2018 GPA Info: 3.79 mean uwgpa, 100% reported

University of California-Berkeley 1425 33
……2018 GPA Info: 3.89 mean uwgpa, 100% reported

Claremont McKenna College 1425 33
……2019 GPA Info: 83% top tenth; 100% top quarter, 14% submitted rank
……2018 GPA Info: 78% top tenth; 93% top quarter, 17% submitted rank
……Note: CMC has the most comprehensive C9 score data I’ve seen
……https://www.cmc.edu/sites/default/files/registrar/CDS_2019-2020.pdf

University of California-Los Angeles 1405 32
……2019 GPA info: 3.90 mean uwgpa, 99% reported
……2018 GPA info: 3.89 mean uwgpa, 99% reported

University of California-San Diego 1365 30
……2018 GPA info: 4.07 wgpa, 96% submitted (UC gpa not fully weighted)
……probably converts to ~ 3.75 uwgpa

Santa Clara University 1355 30
……2018 GPA info: 3.71 uwgpa, 100% submitted

University of California-Santa Barbara 1345 30
……2018 GPA info: 4.12 wgpa, 95% submitted (UC gpa not fully weighted)
………………………probably converts to ~ 3.79 uwgpa

California Polytechnic State University-San Luis Obispo 1335 29
……2018 GPA info: 4.00 wgpa, 98% reported (CSU gpa not fully weighted)
………………………not sure how CSU converts to uwgpa

University of California-Irvine 1300 29
……2018 GPA info: 4.00 wgpa, 100% reported (UC gpa, not fully weighted)
…seems to be too rounded to be an actual mean

Loyola Marymount University 1300 29
……2018 GPA info: 3.81 uwgpa, 98.9% reported (numbers don’t seem to add up; ………………………USC has higher tiered percentage grades, so LMU’s should be < USC’s)

University of California-Santa Cruz 1295 29
……2018 GPA info: 3.55 uwgpa, 97% submitted (kudos to UCSC for submitting uw)

Note: UC Berkeley and UCLA, especially, come considerably short of maxing out their scores – undoubtedly the same for UCSB and UCSD – for economic (and racial) diversity. To show this, UCLA’s CA cohort scores, 1,250/1,500 would outpace its out-of-state’s 1,390/1,520, 25th/75th if the University approached native students scores in the same way – i.e., more stats-based – because of the lower acceptance rate and greater pool from which to choose.