Iran Election

<p>What do you think about it? Seems completely rigged to me. Sad that the people really have no say in their own government.</p>

<p>Disappointing… especially if it was rigged</p>

<p>There is absolutely no way he got 62% of the votes. I think they made the margin so wide in an attempt to trick the people into thinking it wasn’t even close. Unfortunately, for them, the Iranian people are much smarter than that. With record turn-outs and such it appears Ahmadinejad probably had less than 40%.</p>

<p>I only watch German news, and usually in German, which I don’t understand, so I don’t really get much stuff, but I think it gives more of an international view. But I illogically like Ahmedinejad, so I’ll have to look at it a bit more.</p>

<p>Definitely rigged</p>

<p>Very rigged. They don’t allow international monitors of the election so it makes it so obvious. If it was 50/50 split then maybe there wouldn’t have been a fuss over it but 62%to 33%? Come on. That is just rigged. Especially since EVERY single young person is voting.</p>

<p>Youth = 2/3 of the Iranian population. And from what I see, the youth LOVES America and hates the current president like we hated Bush.</p>

<p>Haha, I actually find something intriguing about Ahmedinejad too, I was hoping he would win.</p>

<p>Yep 60% of the population was born after the Revolution. I saw somewhere that they think it is likely the votes were just completely switched. If true, it Means Ahmadinejad had about 34% and Moussavi 63%. </p>

<p>Iran is basically a dictatorship at this point. The elections are fixed and they have this supreme leader guy who basically can do whatever he wants. Weird system.</p>

<p>Reports coming out that Mousavi has been arrested and hundreds of protesters have been killed.</p>

<p>Apparently the government has also shut down the internet and cell service.</p>

<p>Everybody is talking like theyve been monitoring elections for the past 25 years and have a PhD in political science. I know that you dont need to go to university to understand these things, but I think our governments are too involved with other peoples problems. If ahamdinajad wins, so what? As long as he doesnt want to destroy “(Insert your country’s name)”, then I dont think it should be a problem. If he wants to destroy and “wipe israel off the map”, isnt that Israel’s problem? seriously, we have bigger problems at home.</p>

<p>PLUS israel is a big bully, they had it coming :D</p>

<p>I think most people disagree with dictatorship. Maybe you don’t, but most people feel sympathy for the fact that the Iranian people are being repressed.</p>

<p>well, it is a pretty tight dictatorship, too harsh. Something this part of the world’s media doesnt cover: WHY a lot of Iranians like him even though he is a bit…coocoo. He really gets to the core of poverty and important things like that, and thus loved by the poor and older populations. The segment of the younger populations are not liking it (which I dont think is the MAJORITY)</p>

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<p>Yep, let’s just let 7 million people disappear off the face of the earth.</p>

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<p>Israel of all nations in the Middle East wants to be left alone. Too bad you have extremists who can’t let that happen.</p>

<p>Konig - It is very clear that the majority of Iranians do NOT want to maintain their current government. I have no idea why you would think the election was legit.</p>

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I haven’t heard anything about that…source?</p>

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<a href=“http://www.nationmaster.com/country/ir-iran/Age-_distribution[/url]”>http://www.nationmaster.com/country/ir-iran/Age-_distribution&lt;/a&gt;
Scroll down to 2005, the easily largest-represented categories are the youngest ages that are eligible to vote.</p>

<p>Mousavi isn’t exactly a saint, either. i’ve heard stuff about him having a rather terrible human rights record. And I don’t think he’ll be much nicer towards israel, either.</p>

<p>moreover, the presidency of Iran is somewhat of a puppet position. The power is vested in the Ayatollah, who receives a lifetime appointment.</p>

<p>btw, why the hell is this in HSL?</p>

<p>Here’s something on the arrest.</p>

<p>[UPDATED:</a> Mousavi And Other Reformers Arrested. Many People Hurt In Riots By Police | NEWS JUNKIE](<a href=“http://mynewsjunkie.com/2009/06/13/daily-kos-mousavi-arrested-rafsanjani-resigns-iranian-police-fleeing-from-demonstrators/]UPDATED:”>注册送38(中国)百度百科)</p>

<p>And, I have also heard that Mousavi is questionable. But, the issue here isn’t over Iran’s policies. This is about the fact that this country is on the verge of dictatorship or perhaps rebellion. I really don’t care about the policies of either president and I realize that the supreme leader is running things. However, I do care about the fact that thousands of people are rioting and presumably many are being killed as well.</p>

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If he wants to destroy and “wipe israel off the map”, isnt that Israel’s problem? seriously, we have bigger problems at home. </p>

<p>Yep, let’s just let 7 million people disappear off the face of the earth.</p>

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PLUS israel is a big bully, they had it coming </p>

<h2>Israel of all nations in the Middle East wants to be left alone. Too bad you have extremists who can’t let that happen.</h2>

<p>point #1: Well, its not that they like you very much either. Zionism believes in that they (jews) are the superior race. If youre some one like that, then youre expecting a lot of hate. </p>

<p>point #2: Hahahaha you are a VERY funny person, did you know that? again, western media. You should go watch some George Galloway (British MP) speeches. Tells it like it is. first case, invasion of lebanon by israeli forces because they think its their land. well heck no, you didnt even exist before, scattered all over. THEN the lebanese fight back through their majority supported guerrila forces (hezbullah) and are declared a terrorist organization. WOW.</p>

<p>case 2, invasion and attack of palestine. Most recently, they went through the Gaza strip and just blew anything that moved. a lot of people died, innocent. PLUS they didn find the weapons they were looking for…niiice.</p>

<p>case 3, invasion and attack of lands belonging to Syria. Syria didnt do anything and Israel storms into the valleys and claim them.</p>

<p>This doesnt sound like a country that wants to be left alone. It sounds like a terrorist country that needs to be treated like one, and not be given long-range missiles by the United States, because I think the United States government should be smarter than that. Its also funny how everybody freaks out when there are reports of Iran giving long range missiles to Hezbullah. You want them to sit there and watch? I wouldnt</p>

<p>Honestly, I would not be surprised if WWIII is caused by the most problematic country in the world (israel). The only solution is the return of ALL of “israel” to Palestine, just as it was before WWII. you know what happens then? Ahmadinajad will shut up, and so will their extremist supreme leader.</p>

<p>Why are you guys talking politics here. This isn’t about U.S. or Israeli foreign policy. This is about people revolting in one of the top Muslim countries.</p>

<p>“Zionism believes in that they (jews) are the superior race.”
That is patently false. Zionism means exactly what the word states. That the Jewish people ought have a homeland in Zion (Israel).</p>

<p>“first case, invasion of lebanon by israeli forces because they think its their land.”
No, Israel invaded because they had lost patience with Hezbollah kidnappings of their soldiers.</p>

<p>“THEN the lebanese fight back through their majority supported guerrila forces (hezbullah) and are declared a terrorist organization. WOW.”
Hezbollah is a terrorist organisation. They certainly do not have majority support (see recent elections in Lebanon).</p>

<p>“case 2, invasion and attack of palestine. Most recently, they went through the Gaza strip and just blew anything that moved. a lot of people died, innocent. PLUS they didn find the weapons they were looking for…niiice.”</p>

<p>They most certainly did find the weapons they were looking for. They found fighters, weapons, rockets, and other threats. Israel blew up anything that stood against them. Hamas made sure that civilians were among them while they were being attacked. Civilian deaths in the recent Gaza war are just as much, if not more so, the fault of Hamas than Israel.</p>

<p>“case 3, invasion and attack of lands belonging to Syria. Syria didnt do anything and Israel storms into the valleys and claim them.”
Syria had been backing terrorist forces that were constantly attacking Israel. Israel responded by attacking the terrorists in Syria, and were also confronted by the Syrian military.</p>

<p>Israel is the only really democratic nation in the Middle East and our only ally. We support them because they support our interests. This most certainly does merit our backing of them, and nearly unconditionally so.</p>

<p>Moreover, Israel’s seemingly brutal tactics are indeed justified by the fact that her enemies pose an EXISTENTIAL THREAT. They want to see her blown off the face of the map. As a people living in safe Western countries, we cannot appreciate the burden with which the IDF is charged. Hamas wants Israel destroyed. Hezbollah wants Israel destroyed. Iran wants Israel destroyed. The governments of Lebanon and Syria want it destroyed. When one deals with such foes, there is little room for mercy, and what room for mercy there is is most certainly extended.</p>