<p>"I would like to make at least 120-150k after around 7 years of working or so."</p>
<p>mr. california... we all wish it was that easy.</p>
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accounting is a joke compared to engineering. as someone who double majors in engineering and business, my business classes boosts my GPA like no other. Accounting is very tedious and VERY IMPORTANT to businesses. If you want to provide for your family, go ahead!
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Your major is business, not accounting. Therefore you aren't qualified saying Accounting is a joke compared to Engineering. Also everyone knows business classes are jokes.</p>
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<p>Man, engineer majors at UMD sure don't like business majors. I lived on a floor with 70 guys who for the most part where all engineers. I lived in the business and engineer scholars building and the business floor filled up so i got stuck on the engineer floor. I would always hear how i should get a real major and what not. Gets annoying defending myself for being an accounting major. If you are in Hinman's, have fun arguing back and forth with the business majors in the commons.</p>
<p>I don't see how engineering being more or less difficult than accounting has anything to do with this thread.</p>
<p>It's a very common argument, one of my best friends is a computer engineering major (Not sure where this ranks in terms of overall difficulty for engineering majors) and says it's not very difficult for him. He's always been awesome at math and is pretty smart. Many accounting majors find accounting to be quite difficult. I find it in the middle somewhere, definitely study a lot for each test though. Engineering in general is tougher than accounting, but some people are better at studying either subject naturally. The ones that keep crying about engineering are the ones you see struggling because they aren't as smart as they thought they were. Honestly in the end, it doesn't matter which major is tougher. It's all how well you perform on your job, and where that major will take you in the real world.</p>
<p>Also I'm not sure where "if you want to provide for your family" crap came from?</p>
<p>accounting is good if you want a good job and have time to spend with your family. simple as that. if you wish to pursue ibanking, you are selling your life for cash, accounting is the more conservative approach that many people avoid. and sorry, i am majoring in accounting and electrical engineering. i need 150 credits in Maryland in order to take the test for my CPA, double degree-ing is a good choice. it definitely is not easy to do both. I really don't understand why people are getting mad. I never said engineering was better than accounting. i simply said the major is not difficult at all, and that I encourage people to pursue it! prove me wrong please.</p>
<p>accounting is good if you want a good job and have time to spend with your family. simple as that. </p>
<p>Nice, just like 90% of other jobs?</p>
<p>yeah uAri, thats exactly what I've been saying: that for some people, its simply easier to get an A than for others and these are the people that succeed no matter how much passion the others have. Thus you are agreeing with me...</p>
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<p>lol you're in so much denial right now its not even funny. I take that back, its actually very amusing.</p>
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there are plenty of dumbasses that get accounting degrees (I've met a few of them), and compared to I-banking, the top lawyers and docs, engineers, they aren't that smart. There are exceptions as always, but I go for majority, which is something you still fail to recognize.
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<p>That is why I called you a dumbass not for the statement you made about school being relatively simply for some folk while persistently difficult for others.
doctors are not always smarter the majority of the population. not everyone wants to be a doctor, lawyer, or engineer. Some people actually like working with numbers or plan on starting their own business, in which a degree in rocket science will not help, a degree in business administration will.
Trust me I know plenty of business majors with far more intelligence than most of the pre-med and law students I know. They just enjoy and chose to study in a different field. That is no reason to state "lawyers are smarter than everyone else, GENERALLY" not the case.
It all depends on your Interests, You can't label pre-med students "smart" and others dumb because they choose a different career path.</p>
<p>I do find it hilarious that every engineering major, regardless of how good are actually are doing in their program, believe they are more intelligent than business majors.</p>
<p>Gotta agree with Dawgie, a chemE major with a 2.0 or so was yellin at my friend who is a 3.9 econ that he didnt have to work for his grades.</p>
<p>uhhh I would presume that doctor's are smarter than the majority of the population uri. They have much more stringent requirements to get in than a business major as far as getting in. Look at this statistic: 50% of all students (even those at HYPS) don't get in to ANY MEDICAL SCHOOL. EVERYONE who doesn't flunk out still can do business, but of course, won't have as good of jobs. Same with lawyers that compete in the top tier. Doctors also have science majors which are traditionally harder than accounting BY FAR. On top of that, they have to ace the MCAT, so I don't know what you're talking about. All of you guys just use exceptions and then generalize which is idiotic. Yes, those investment bankers and some consultants are probably smarter than the average doctor, but similarly, a lawyer that goes to a T14 law school is smarter than almost any other business major, and even some of the best lawyers/docs could easily do I-banking or something if they wanted to.</p>
<p>In addition, pre-med is definately persistantly more difficult than business dude. Look at how many pre-meds get weeded out versus how many pre-biz (and again, I'm not talking just about consulting and I-banking, because I know you'll pull that ish on me) get weeded out. Check your facts before assuming exceptions = average population.</p>
<p>EDIT: Btw, don't you know that most pre-med majors simply aren't cut out for med school? Same with pre-law. They just assume its for them after seeing it on TV. So try comparing actual med or law students rather than undergrads.</p>
<p>california you've lost your credibility i think its time to make a 3rd nickname and ask more questions</p>
<p>Difficult of courses has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. You need to grow up and understand that not everyone with a high IQ wants to be a doctor or a lawyer. Some prefer to be teachers, some prefer to start their own business', some prefer to go into computers/technological fields, some want to study arts, some want to study music. It takes plenty of intelligence to succeed in the business world.</p>
<p>wow again, I'm not saying everyone does. And yes, being able to handle harder coursework does equate to being more intelligent. Wouldn't you say someone who can do algebra 2 is not as good at math as someone who does calculus? I would. And didn't I not say 50,000 times that there are exceptions, and brilliant people do go into other fields? I think so. But again, in general, the average doctor who goes through so many filters is smarter than most businessmen who have little to no filters. </p>
<p>I think your debating is the only thing that needs maturing. All you and the other dude keep saying is essentially, I know everything because I'm older. You two are so elitist in your thinking and even now, you both have no valid points except for exceptions to the norm to back up your points and in every post, all you resort to is "grow up high schooler". So I suggest you back up your thoughts with concrete evidence rather than trying to play the age card.</p>
<p>If lawyers are so smart, why the hell do so many of them go back to get their MBA? In many cases, it's because their dumbasses shouldn't have gotten into law in the first place.</p>
<p>Lawyers, especially drunk ones, are too funny. The "typical" lawyer is very cocky about being a lawyer, and then is shot down to reality when he asks you what you do and you tell him "nothing". Then he realizes the mundaneness of his existence and begins to spill his guts about how tedious his work is.</p>
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Wouldn't you say someone who can do algebra 2 is not as good at math as someone who does calculus?
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<p>That certainly doesn't correlate with intelligence. I took Algebra 2 as a freshman in high school, but decided not to take calculus in HS. Does this mean I am less intelligent than those that did? Should I have scored lower on the math section of the SAT? I did take business calculus in college, but I have yet to use it in the real world.</p>
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You two are so elitist
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<p>Cry me a river.</p>
<p>Intelligent people exist everywhere and anywhere.</p>
<p>i agree with Uri here...</p>
<p>in college:
engineering: so much hard, no social life...
business: it is easy, party on</p>
<p>in real world:
engineering: busy, but you can raise a family, no more than 50+ hours a week unless you are a manager or you are trying to start an engineering firm.. etc
business: hours are everywhere... erratic schedule ... work 60+ hours a week if you are in finance/ ibanking / consulting </p>
<p>business gpa's do not translate into success in the real world. i think gpa in engineering determines success with more success. lol.</p>
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If lawyers are so smart, why the hell do so many of them go back to get their MBA? In many cases, it's because their dumbasses shouldn't have gotten into law in the first place.</p>
<p>Lawyers, especially drunk ones, are too funny. The "typical" lawyer is very cocky about being a lawyer, and then is shot down to reality when he asks you what you do and you tell him "nothing". Then he realizes the mundaneness of his existence and begins to spill his guts about how tedious his work is.
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<p>Okay, well if businessmen are so smart, how come so many of their asses get laid of, or why do so many of their new businesses fail? Because they're dumbasses, especially those drunk ones (btw, this really doesn't help show your maturity, because that is such a stupid example. <strong><em>, f</em></strong>*** einstein would be as dumb as you are at debating if he was drunk, idiot). And again, those are lawyers that get weeded out from law for whatever reason. Perhaps they dislike law, and yes, some are incompetant. But again, the average population is probably smarter. Just because you saw Legally Blond and assume that teenage DQs can get into Harvard doesn't mean thats how it happens in the real world. And I'm sure those top HYS lawyers are as smart, or smarter than some IBers.</p>
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That certainly doesn't correlate with intelligence. I took Algebra 2 as a freshman in high school, but decided not to take calculus in HS. Does this mean I am less intelligent than those that did? Should I have scored lower on the math section of the SAT? I did take business calculus in college, but I have yet to use it in the real world.
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<p>Yes it does. Because you didn't have the balls to take a tough class, you are behind your peers who have taken that class and have that knowledge. Just because you have the capacity to do it, doesn't change the fact that you ARE dumber at math than those that did it. Its not just the calculus thats important, but the problem solving and reasoning that goes behind it also puts you behind since you lack some of the skills you missed out by not taking it. </p>
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Cry me a river.
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<p>see again, you just resort to personal attacks or faulty logic (looking only at extremes) to assert your case, which is really stupid. I'm surprised that someone as successful as you (or as successful as you claim to be) is as incompetent as you in debating and appropriate use of language. </p>
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n college:
engineering: so much hard, no social life...
business: it is easy, party on</p>
<p>in real world:
engineering: busy, but you can raise a family, no more than 50+ hours a week unless you are a manager or you are trying to start an engineering firm.. etc
business: hours are everywhere... erratic schedule ... work 60+ hours a week if you are in finance/ ibanking / consulting</p>
<p>business gpa's do not translate into success in the real world. i think gpa in engineering determines success with more success. lol.
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<p>okay again, just because you work harder doesn't mean you're more successful hinmanCEO. There are plenty of plastic surgeons or other normal doctors that can work less than a businessman and makes plenty more money. Same with law. And again, all of you fail to look at the general population. You are only looking at ibanking, consulting, and finance which are known for bad hours. But honestly, I don't see the point of your post, can you re-explain what you're talking about?</p>
<p>The OP asks if accounting is worth it. I said yes, it is. I also said grades for accounting in college don't matter as much. As long as you pass the CPA, and do well, you will be fine. That is my point. Do you have another other questions?</p>