<p>Not only is the list quite large, but I often wonder how I could possibly fit in all the courses for my major (or double major) if we're supposed to take all these required courses and we're just supposed to take what looks fun our first term, especially while doing UROP, etc.</p>
<p>now that you mention it, i looked at the courses...<em>falls over.</em> just thinking about what the possible distribution requirements and what classes i may be taking first term is incredibly overwhelming. orientation's there to clarify this apparent confusion--hopefully.</p>
<p>wow....intensive japanese I is 10 credits.....that really limits my course options because of the 18 credit limit</p>
<p>I'm going to be taking the required courses for Ross, maybe more challenging ones if they complete my prerequisite and I place into them.</p>
<p>Hey guys you got a mail w/courses? Could you like publish some of the courses and credits CoE UMICH offers.</p>
<p>Wow, 10 credits...and i thought great books was too much for requirements. That basically eliminates the possibility of UROP and sanity simultaneously. Sorry man.</p>
<p>i just hope that course is one of the special cases where they would let me take more than 18 credits.....since i'm also thinking about pre-med...gotta take mad sciences.......</p>
<p>death, im right there with u man. I dont get it. Cause chem, bio, physics, calculus, along with required eng, language...thats like 24 credits, it makes no sense! take out physics lets say cause ill do it soph yr but that would still be like 20 cred. Theres no possible way i can fit in my required courses AND other interesting courses I want to take in the 18 credit limit</p>
<p>Remember that college isn't like high school. 3-4 courses is very normal course-load, and depending on the courses, it can be a very challenging course load as well. </p>
<p>College forces you specialize, so choose wisely.</p>
<p>but still...if it has to be that way, then most likely freshman year will be the "requirement fufiller" year and then soph-senior year is when you can take other coures that just interest you.</p>
<p>What I really dislike is the foreign language requirement.</p>
<p>i guess there's always spring-summer term.......</p>
<p>spring/summer is a pain in the ass lol, who wants to work in the summer? ARG!</p>
<p>Just so you guys know, it's 18 credits per semester, not per year. Umar, you were making it sound like it was per year and you would have to bump some courses back a year. The part that I dont get is that I took about 40 credit hours per semester of all AP classes in HS, which are supposed to be direct mirrors of college courses and it wasn't hard, yet 18 credit hours in college is insane or something. I just don't get that.</p>
<p>I think it is true that some people work harder in high school than they will in college. However, I think generally AP classes are at a lower standard. For example, in AP Euro I basically read a chapter and wrote an essay every week. In AP Calc I did practically nothing outside of class. And the university courses I took here were all fairly easy. However, I'm expecting to do a lot more reading/homework at Michigan.</p>
<p>I think that I'll take-</p>
<p>(4) MATH 295- Honors Math I (a lot of homework!)
(4) GTBOOKS 191- Great Books I (a lot of reading!)
(3) PHYSICS 401- Intermediate Mechanics (should be fun)
(4) LATIN 101- Latin I (meh)
(3) UROP</p>
<p>and then</p>
<p>(4) MATH 296- Honors Math II
(4) GTBOOKS 192- Great Books II
(3) PHYSICS 451- Methods of Theoretical Physics I
(3) PHYSICS 405- Intermediate E+M
(4) LATIN 102- Latin II</p>
<p>Does anyone know if UROP is a year commitment or a semester one? In other words, after we get to know the people at the lab can we work there w/o credit second semester?</p>
<p>Hey samwise, I'm thinking of something like this:</p>
<p>(4) Math 295-Honors Math I
(4) PHYSICS 160-Honors Physics I
(1) PHYSICS 141- Physics lab
(4) Honors writing requirement (which one is easier, great books or classic civ? I just really don't like reading, I'm too ADD)
(3) Psych of racism or whatever satisfies my ethnicity req
(2) UROP</p>
<p>(4) Math 296
(4) EECS 183 (darn requirements for math majors...I hate computers)
(4) More honors writing requirement
And then some fun class and UROP again.</p>
<p>Hey samwise I didn't know you could take 400-level classes freshman year. Those werent in the course guide of stuff available to freshmen so I'd check into that. And I think UROP is a whole year deal, at least that's what the calendar indicated. And again, someone please tell me which writing requirement is easiest for honors, I'm looking for least amount of work/reading, not necessarily easiest tests or whatever.</p>
<p>Even though you received most of the course guide in the mail it is also online the entire thing with prereqs and such @ <a href="http://www.lsa.umich.edu/cg%5B/url%5D">www.lsa.umich.edu/cg</a></p>
<p>I think western civ is supposed to be easier, but I'd really think about it before passing up Great Books. I suppose if it's not your thing it wouldn't be so great. For me though, even though I'm majoring in physics, Great Books is one of the big reasons I chose Michigan. I remember reading that one of the lecturers got an award for best teacher in America or something.</p>
<p>Looks like we'll have Math 295 together. I envy you for not having to take a foreign language! I took 3 years of French in HS but didn't learn a thing, so it would be pointless to try and take the placement test. The only thing I can think of is taking French 4 at the local cc and working my butt off to try and get a C. I think transfer grades aren't counted, but with my complete lack of French knowledge I doubt I could even make a C at the cc. :)</p>
<p>I took Spanish and feel I have a decent command of the language. I hopefully got a 4 on the AP test but I might have gotten a 3 because I'm really ADD when it comes to listening, so my mind kept jumping during the listening portion so I'm not sure how that turned out. My speaking and essay sections were 5 material, but listening and reading were probably 2 or 3 material so I really don't know what's going to happen to me. I'm being optimistic in not putting spanish on my course list. Math 295 will be awesome, we should start up a group or something.</p>
<p>quick q--if a course fulfills 2 distribution requirements (eg intro to anthropology which satisfies both social science and raceðnicity) does it mean that the class goes into both categories or does one have to pick which distribution it goes under?</p>