<p>Update:</p>
<p>Accepted to ASU! Should get scholarship notification and actual acceptance letter soon. Will be considered for Barrett January Priority Action, notification in early February.</p>
<p>I’m pretty sure we find out about Barrett on January 10th, according to their website. Not February.</p>
<p>I’m in a January priority pool. I wasn’t accepted to the university in time for the November pool. It’s for anybody who gets accepted before January 1st so they don’t get put in the RD pool.</p>
<p>The easiest.</p>
<p>Sitanfu, you are not even in college as yet so how could you know that ASU is easy?</p>
<p>I GOT ACCEPTED TO BARRETT! Just confirmed it with the Barrett student support specialist, don’t know why I got it so early but I’m stoked!</p>
<p>If anyone was wondering my stats:
GPA: 3.5uw 3.9w
SAT: 1340/1600
ECs,recs,essays: great</p>
<p>Teenbodybuilder Congrats on the Barrett acceptance.</p>
<p>That’s awesome! Congrats :)</p>
<p>ASU currently has one of the highest admissions rates of any type of college or 4 year University in the country, around 85%, however it also has one of the lowest 4 year graduation rates at around 33%.</p>
<p>No-one is ever denied admission to Arizona State University, it appears in 2013/14 Barrett Honors now admit students with <1400 SAT’s & <3.5 CPA. </p>
<p>Anyone will be admitted but only 3 out of 10 graduate in 4 years! To the OP you can do better.</p>
<p>Barrett freshman are the top 7-10% of the freshman class. I’ll gladly compete with those other students for the almighty pre-med GPA.</p>
<p>Englishman, since you so enjoy comparing ASU to that unequivocally superior institution, U of Arizona, you might want to include their stats in your barbs. Let’s see, U of A, 4 year grad rate according to most recent CDS is 35%. How about 6 year grad rates? Hmm, 57% vs. 61%. Vast difference, eh? Truth is, both schools have troublingly low graduation rates. Englishman, I am shocked that you allowed your son to enroll at U of A, given your concern about these figures.</p>
<p>It is clear that AZ has a large population of students who graduate HS unprepared for college work. This is a challenging problem and won’t be solved overnight. I imagine it is a big concern of university officials, how best to address this. I have wondered if it at least partly explains the stringent attendance policies in my daughter’s lower div classes, with sharp grade reductions for a small number of missed classes. Perhaps they hope to catch some of the kids who drop out by pushing them to attend classes regularly early on.</p>
<p>@celesteroberts: I agree entirely with your statements here, Arizona has some woefully academically prepared HS graduates as highlighted by such poor 4 /6 yr graduation rates, shockingly poor.<br>
Prior to my own DS10 starting college I did some work analysing graduation rates and admission acceptance % at 4 year Universities and Colleges across the country and found very high rates of correlation, meaning the higher the admission rates the lower the graduation rate (ASU), nothing startling about that finding!.<br>
As to Arizona; my DS enrolled at UofA for a couple of reasons, he was accepted to Barrett@ASU;
- They offered the major he wanted and
- Offered a full Wildcat Excellence Scholarship $10K (because he was graduating HS ready for college!) its ‘Free Tuition’ and dorms only cost $7K pa, plus he will go to Law School and is now applying, further his HS gf is at ASU and lives at home with mom and has done since HS! (can’t wait for that the end either!)</p>
<p>Your point is well taken, my concern was not so much acceptance rates but graduation rates, I wanted to be sure he could graduate in 4 years or less, this has proven to be the case for my DS, he will graduate a semester early after 7 semesters at UofA. Not to belittle either University (I do adjunct lecture at ASU, my Co is a major donator,) but these graduation rates are poor in comparison to many similar schools. </p>
<p>As an aside check out the Fiske guide, if you haven’t, I’m using it a great deal as my current DS14 is applying to college (note he will NOT go inState!), he (Fiske) rates UofA “generally viewed as a cut above ASU in academic quality” to which I agree.</p>
<p>I had not heard that some ASU classes had such stiff attendance penalties, I have not seen that elsewhere not least at UofA, but probably a good thing.</p>
<p>Can’t keep a good school down…AS…oh dear</p>
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<p>Interesting note about part-time faculty at ASU/In state University, I am adjunct at ASU and there are ALOT of us teaching students throughout the college including Barrett. Side noted that UofA has fewer part-time/adjunct faculty primarily due to Science/Medical programs, any thoughts?</p>
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<p>Oh, yeah, I am also an adjunct. I feel your pain, Englishman! But how much does this really affect Barrett? A lot of adjuncts are really good teachers but can’t give as much attention to students as they could if they were full time.</p>
<p>True, I don’t teach @Barrett, but this is a big issue, note it was highlighted on PBS last night, kids are being taught by adjuncts all the time, many are very very good professors, but they just do not have the time to give students as much help as maybe required. </p>
<p>As a parent my DS has not had any issues/classes with adjuncts at UA!</p>
<p>But thanks, I don’t need any sympathy and I really don’t think you meant to offer any, lol, I do it because I like to teach. ASU has a big issue with adjunct profs! as the article notes. Students are pushing admin to assist AP’s to obtain FT if they desire.</p>
<p>Here again is the problem presenting purported “facts” based on either one person’s experience or popular media with no support, ie a short news blurb that quotes some obscure report. This news blurb completely blurs the difference between part-time and adjunct faculty (which may actually be a full-time person) and student-to-faculty ratios.</p>
<p>Here are the actual data for each school’s Common Data Sets:</p>
<p>ASU Full-Time Faculty 2546, Part-Time Faculty 216, Student Faculty Ratio 23:1
UA Full-Time Faculty 1536, Part-Time Faculty 259, Student Faculty Ratio 22:1</p>
<p>These facts clearly show that there are actually MORE part-time faculty at AU than ASU and in fact an even higher percentage of the faculty at UA ( 14.4%) are part-time than at ASU (7.8%)</p>
<p>Note that none of these numbers include classes taught by graduate student TA’s and I have no idea how that compares.</p>
<p>One can immediately see that the student-to-faculty ratio student less at UA than ASU. Actually, if I strictly follow the directions for computing this on the Common Data Set, I get ASU 24:1. Both are among the highest in the country but these numbers can be very misleading. Both will also be higher than what a student in the Honors College/Program at either school will actually experience because Honors classes are smaller. </p>
<p>I can’t emphasize enough that a prospective student should look at the course schedule for any school and see the exact sizes of classes, both at the introductory level and in upper-level courses in their major and then decide if it fits them. </p>
<p>And in 2 semesters, my freshman daughter has had no issues at ASU either, but she also has no clue whether any of her profs are/were adjunct or part-time. It seems irrelevant to her.</p>
<p>@STEM Thanks for all that detailed information. Clears things up for me.</p>
<p>Just noticed this conversation. I scanned the people in the ASU math dept, maybe 120 or so . There are 3 adjunct faculty, but also a few instructors and many lecturers and senior lecturers. I don’t know what these categories signify. So far my D has had all small classes taught by tenured/tenure track professors, and no TAs, but I suppose that is luck? Or are the honors classes more often taught by tenure faculty? The sorts of classes she’ll take next year- math, physics, music, seem also to be taught by tenure faculty. Maybe that’s just how math dept operates.</p>