<p>Why do you think Harvard and Yale are only preoccupied with numbers? You have to be pretty special to get in either of those schools, too.</p>
<p>I don't think that they are only preoccupied with numbers... I always feel like at CC my very deliberate word choices are in vain. I said "ostensibly much more concerned with numbers," and I'm fairly sure that this is not too bold a statement.</p>
<p>Brown:
Very important admission factors:
Character/Personal Qualities
Rigor of secondary school record
Talent/Ability
Level of Applicant's Interest</p>
<p>Yale:
Very important admission factors:
Character/Personal Qualities
Class Rank
Application Essay
Extracurricular Activities
Recommendations
Rigor of secondary school record
Standardized Test Scores
Talent/Ability
Academic GPA</p>
<p>Harvard doesn't list anything for "very important" but I don't think it's a stretch to say that based on their class profile as far as SATs and stuff like that it is concerned with numbers. </p>
<p>Again, I'm just wondering with my situation if a school which is--yes--less concerned with numbers than its peers would be more likely to accept me.</p>
<p>*I should add that those lists were provided by college reps for the CollegeBoard website</p>
<p>Those are straight from the CDS</p>
<p>People from my school who usually get into Yale are top students-with the highest SAT scores, most talented out of the whole class in sciences/math or English, etc. Brown is a little different. I know several who got in with considerable less SAT scores than those who got into Yale and who only have "average" grades....Generally speaking, I'm not surprised that certain students got into Yale because their academics/extra/talent/personality seem to fit the school profile. So there weren't any surprises with acceptances. But Brown is a different case. Having known them for four years, I was really fustrated when two friends with great grades, scores, and talents, and who showed a lot of interest for Brown were rejected while a couple of people with mediocre grades and shallow personalities were accepted. I don't know why this is the case. :( Anyway, I don't think this is the case everywhere. Perhaps Brown regarded my school's students differently. I don't know.
But to answer the OP's question, I'd say Brown is a little easier to get in than Yale and I think it definitely looks at its applications very differently.</p>
<p>Well, dragonreborn, that's not the experience at my school at all. You have to be top five where I go to have a chance at either Yale or Brown and my experience from my own high school and from the people I've met here on campus is that most of us were "the one" or one of the "one or two" at our high schools.</p>
<p>I think my son was the first to get into Brown from our HS, even though a few kids usually are admitted to other Ivies (including Harvard, Yale, Princeton). The joke was always that Brown hated us. No one was accepted to Brown this yr, even though top top students applied.</p>
<p>I definitely agree with the fact that Brown, Dartmouth and Yale really overlap with applicants, and cross admits.</p>
<p>Bustles....</p>
<p>I really don't think any of that is accurate.</p>
<p>claysoul, please read page 6
<a href="http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Institutional_Research/documents/Brown_CDS07_08.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Institutional_Research/documents/Brown_CDS07_08.pdf</a></p>
<p>Wow... pinder has issues. Umm... by sheer numbers Brown is clearly "easier" to get into than Yale. I don't think anyone is arguing the reason's why (or they shouldn't because that wasn't the question). But, it is.</p>
<p>I think that the word "easier" gets people worked up because it makes it seem as if the school is not as good. I don't think that admissions rate is a good way to test a college by any means. Clearly, popularity would give certain colleges advantages. Anywho, would "less difficult" work? Or perhaps "more likely to get into?"</p>
<p>true..
I would say more likely to get into.. :P i think both yale and brown tend to attract more artsy (ie. not super duper hardcore sciences) applicatns so the thing about their app. pool over lapping, i do understand. </p>
<p>it seems like brown is (now a days) a little falling behind in the competitive scene. am I wrong? if so please correct me! :)</p>
<p>Yes mistofolis, you are indeed wrong.</p>
<p>Oh don't worry. The Fulbright scholars will pull the competitiveness right up.</p>
<p>posting negative comments as per usual?</p>
<p>I don't know what you're talking about.</p>
<p>I was accepted to Brown's Art and Architecture. I am CERTAIN the only reason they took me is because my dad and my brother both graduated from there.</p>
<p>I was waitlisted by the University of Delaware for Art Conservation and Restoration - and it is a public college. (I was lucky and they did accept me, only after the regular decision deadline for answers)</p>
<p>I didn't apply to Yale.</p>
<p>Your justification that Harvard admitted some of students and later had to recind their admissions as skewing the perception of extreme selectivity is as dumb of an argument as you saying you never heard Brown accepting students and not having to recind thei admissions. Just because you haven't heard anything in the news doesn't mean that Harvard is less selective. You only mentionen 3 examples of rescinded admissions. 3 out of 1600 freshman seats. How many does Brown have? Possibly more that are not publicized in the news and media.</p>
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<p>What is that? As far as I know, there is no specific program like that for undergrad. It's just The College, for undergraduates, unless you are accepted PLME. Am I wrong? Are you a grad student?</p>
<p>franglish, it's actually called the History of Art and Architecture.</p>