Is CAL still considered the #1 UC even though UCLA has a lower admit rate?

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of California - Berkeley
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<p>Is CAL still considered the #1 UC even though UCLA has a lower admit rate?</p>

<p>Cal: 26.6% 12943 admits
UCLA: 21.7% 12083 admits</p>

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<p>Why yes of course.</p>

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<p>UCLA gets a lot more applicants because right-wing nuts perceive LA to be more moderate than the Bay Area. </p>

<p>(Ordinarily, I would disagree with that (I’m from LA), but because 50.1% of LA decided to oppress the LGBT in November, it seems very accurate)</p>

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<p>That’s not Cal’s “real” admit rate. They accept spring admits as well, so the number is inflated. The admit rate for the fall is about 21 % as well.</p>

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<p>UCLA get more applicants because the “environment” (whether that’s social, material, or ‘physical’ is up to you) is supposedly better.</p>

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<p>I suppose the recent UC budget cut protests could sum up the difference between Cal and UCLA as far as “environmental” conditions go: UC Berkeley had 5000 students letting their voices be heard and UCLA had about 800 students participating in that particular public discourse for whatever that is worth. In any case, if rankings were solely determined by admit rate, then there would be a lot more kids getting rejected by mid tier schools looking to move up the chain.</p>

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<p>I believe that UC Berkeley will always be the #1 UC (or public school in the country, for that matter) because of the fact that it was the first established UC and has an academic-aura that UCLA also exhibits but is almost shadowed by its highly social atmosphere. I’m just spit-ballin’ so who knows?!</p>

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<p>You really cant dictate the rank of a school based off admit rate. It is mostly self-selected as most who apply to UC Berkeley do so because they know of its academic reputation and that it will be hard work. While not all, but most lean towards UCLA due to the social scene of SoCal and to its “chill” atmosphere so UCLA will often get pretty unqualified applicants who hope to go to a good school with a decent party/social scene. Determining rank from admit rank would put University of Chicago at the same level as UC Irvine (~40%), but we all know that U Chicago is usually ranked top 10, while UC Irvine tends to end up at around 40-50.</p>

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<p>Well that’s a bit biased against LA. I know tons of people from my year and this past year who really wanted to go to LA and only applied to Berkeley just for the hell of it (it’s really not that difficult…). Most of them got into Berkeley, but not into LA. Is Cal still ranked 1? Yea amongst public schools. But with the way things are going (perhaps better said as the way things aren’t going as Cal hasn’t changed anything for a while now), LA is soon to be catching up in these next few years.</p>

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<p>Batman17, kindly check the stats. </p>

<p>Berkeley applicants, admitted students and enrolled students have higher GPAs and SAT scores than UCLA’s despite that UCLA has lower admit rate than Berkeley’s.</p>

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<p>The hilarious part about the “perceived as more conservative” thing for UCLA is that Berkeley isn’t so liberal so much as very, very tolerant. The city itself is definitely on the leftist side, but that differs a fair bit from my impression of the University.</p>

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<p>Being tolerant and being liberal kind of go hand and hand. Part of being liberal means accepting people’s rights to be who they are (i.e. to go with my prior post, liberals accept gays and lesbians for who they are and believe they should have equal rights as human beings, conservatives don’t; look at how many conservatives support the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes bill)</p>

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<p>Also, the UC’s top graduate school programs (graduate school programs does not include health schools, which are considered professional school programs) are mostly concentrated here. Most of the top programs are here, because the UC can’t afford to have top programs everywhere. The budget crisis isn’t going to change Berkeley’s excellence compared to the other UCs, as all the UCs are taking the same cuts. Berkeley’s performance versus private schools and versus better managed public schools will fall unless we do something (i.e. repeal/reduce the 67% requirement for new budgets/taxes in the state legislature, therefore preventing the Republican superminority from blocking UC funding).</p>

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<p>This question has stirred up some interesting opinions on the differences between Cal and UCLA, but when I saw the OP’s question, I couldn’t help but wonder 1) why does it matter and 2) #1 at what?</p>