is colgate prestigious?

Colleges and Universities A-Z Colgate University
61

<p>Haha, learn something new everyday :-)}}</p>

<p>See what a LAC education will do for ya? :)</p>

<p>I learned how to distill alcohol too. It sure beat the rotgut wine I made in h/s </p>

<p>Some time remind to tell you about the president of a certain fraternity (when they still had their houses) who was busted for growing Marijuana in the frat house. Growing a few plants is one thing, however, he had enough to get the students at every college within 200 miles high. A great deal made its way over to Colgate-lol</p>

<p>“The Sterile Cuckoo”, staring Lisa Minnelli, was filmed at another frat house at Hamilton. </p>

<p>One of the fraternities members, and notorious partier, moved the tape on the floors placed there so the actors could begin on the same <em>mark</em> the next day of filming. It took about couple of days for the director to figure what was being done. </p>

<p>Needless to say, he was less than assumed when he discovered why the actors positions didn’t match from one filming day to the next. </p>

<p>The mischievous student in question went on to become the head of liquor enforcement of a nearby state. I suppose it’s analogous to FDR putting Joe Kennedy in charge of newly founded SEC. It takes a crook to discover one. Why not put a drunk in charge of busting bars?</p>

<p>The Streaking Team at Hamilton is tame compared to what used to go on at the college. And I only know about what a few friends and a relative that attended the college informed of. I can imagine what I didn’t find about.</p>

<p>I was visiting, though, when a beer company gave the frats dozens of kegs of a free beer to* test market*-- in the winter no less, so everyone could fall into snow banks and freeze wandering between frat houses and the women’s dorms. What where they thinking-lol</p>

62

<p>I don't think he went to either of those schools haha.</p>

63

<p>I don't think he went to either of those schools }}</p>

<p>Don't think?--lol You know for a fact I didn't attend Hamilton. :)</p>

64

<p>Roadlesstraveled,
Where did you go to college? and when you say that you visited Colgate from time to time what years were you there? </p>

<p>I just want to know if maybe it is different now, I'm not calling you a liar.</p>

65

<p>{from time to time what years were you there?}} </p>

<p>My musings were from a couple++ decades ago. Ticklemepink’s ( a poster and current student) father is a Colgate alumnus. Even she admits Colgate had the <em>party</em> rep when her father was a student, but so did almost every college in New England</p>

<p>Nothing takes away from the fact Colgate was an excellent college then, as well as now.</p>

<p>Besides, things were much different 100 years ago -lol……For one thing, the drinking age in NY, VT etc. was 18 --and alcohol consumption was much more acceptable than it is today. </p>

<p>The drinking at Hamilton and Colgate were nothing compared to the issues at Dartmouth--not much different at Dartmouth today. :) Williams, according to one alum I know, has real problems also. </p>

<p>Additionally, the fraternity houses at Colgate are now owned by the college, which I’m sure (positive) has somewhat mitigated the problems with underage and overdrinking.
At Middlebury and Hamilton the college administrations took the houses away entirely. </p>

<p>The real truth is drinking at Colgate is a non-issue. There’s binge drinking at Harvard, P’ton, MIT (big time) and almost every other campus in the country. </p>

<p>I certainly wouldn't dissuade my child from attending Colgate simply b/c <em>some</em> kids have a few too many beers now and then. Nor should you worry in the slightest about the atmosphere at Colgate. If you’re a non-drinker, Colgate is still a great place to be. Ask TMP, she doesn’t drink.</p>

66

<p>my parents wont let me go to colgate because they say its less prestigious than nyu :'(</p>

67

<p>One of the sweetest things I've noticed about Colgate since my junior year in high school (ah, almost THREE years!) is that Colgate tends to be very forward thinking. It doesn't look back to the past, only looks back to correct their mistakes. But seriously, many students that I've talked to here don't really like talking about Colgate's past because what kind of environment it is now is much more positive towards learning and cooperation rather than drinking. Colgate is depending on its current resources to create a better name for itself, not its "legacy" like MIT and Harvard.</p>

68

<p>my parents wont let me go to colgate because they say its less prestigious than nyu }}}}</p>

<p>Let’s for a moment assume your parents are correct, which they aren’t, where do you want to go to college? </p>

<p>There’s a big difference between the close, nurturing community, classes taught by professors and not TA’s, undergrad research opportunities etc, a student will experience at a top LAC such as Colgate , compared to that of a large urban University. Perceived prestige may allow your parents to boast at cocktail parties but it doesn’t help you and your happiness with how and where you’re educated.</p>

69

<p>Gee, Rachel, I wouldn't let my daughter go to NYU (or at least campaigned against it incessantly until she finally understood) because I knew from personal experience how wrong it was for her and for many. She'd been going into the City for years on weekends, loved it, had friends there, liked the atmosphere and then was admitted.</p>

<p>But I had gone to NYU and knew, from the lack of campus, lack of sports, collegial activities, from Into courses of 200, knew from the availablity of all the other things in the City, how mostly uninvolved with eachother students at NYU were or become. How they go to classes in the Main Building, go their own ways in the dorms, clubs, how as early as possible they get an apartment and further distance themselves from all but their small circle.</p>

<p>How they miss out on college life and experiences and become (adult) New Yorkers.</p>

<p>All of the good things about NYU are the good things, activities, arts, culture, clubs, food, hipness, on and on, in short about being young and living in New York City.</p>

<p>But all of those things will STILL be there four years from now, as they were four years after I went and graduated, as they were forty years before I even went there. They will always be there and a lot better after you go to college, become fully who you are and bring *that * person to NYC.</p>

<p>The only thing better than being young and going to live in New York City is the excitement and opportunities of doing it after college. </p>

<p>As for NYU being more prestigous than Colgate.... unless you are talking about Tisch for Arts, maybe Stern for Business, or the Law School etc., you know that isn't true.</p>

70

<p>I know and I've tried convincing my parents. They say that because they had never heard of Colgate before my junior year, few other people will have heard of it as well, so i will have a difficult time finding a job.</p>

71

<p>few other people will have heard of it as well, so i will have a difficult time finding a job.}}</p>

<p>Very few have heard of Colgate? The uneducated and immigrant’s maybe. So your parents premise is all the students who graduate from Midd, Bowdoin, Bates, Colby, Hamilton, Smith, Wellesley, Amherst, Wes, and all the other top ranked LACs won't be able to find jobs either? That’s ridiculous.</p>

<p>Unless you’re applying at a Mc Donald’s, where the manager may not have heard of Colgate, anyone in the business or academic community certainly is more than familiar with Colgate.. Would there happen to any significant cost difference between the two schools? i.e NYU is cheaper?</p>

<p>fwiw- I don't have a child at Colagte, nor am I an alum, so I'm certaintly not biased, just the facts.</p>

72

<p>"anyone in the business or academic community certainly is more than familiar with Colgate.."</p>

<p>Soo true. Think about all the LACs. ie. Williams is without a doubt one of the best LACs out there, and yet to the average person, especially those outside the northeast, it is realtively unheard of. However its graduates all go on to excellent grad schools, or get hired for jobs very quickly. This is because the people who matter (company recruiters, grad school adcoms .... ) they all recognize these top LACs for what they are: Very competitive schools with strong programs and bright graduates. </p>

<p>Rachel: I understand your situation. I'm deciding between Colgate and Vanderbilt and my dad wants me to go to Vandy soo bad. He is very into the whole telling people where his kids go to school (he thinks it is a reflection of himself). Vandy gets more name recognition by the common man and since we are in the midwest Vanderbilt is pretty big. I hope u can convince your parents, maybe show them US New rankings, that may boost thier opinon of Colgate.</p>

73

<p>Yes, well-educated people will recognize Colgate as a prestigious instution of higher learning. Tell the majority of students in my grade you're going to Colgate, and they'll assume you're speaking about toothpaste. Fortunately for you, the students in my grade are generally below average or average.</p>

<p>Congrats to all you 2010ers!! :)</p>

<p>Oh, you might also want to know that a good number of my teachers haven't heard of ANY of the LACs. It doesn't even end there; my french teacher didn't even know what Dartmouth was. </p>

<p>The alumni network and all of the resources at Colgate will make the next four years (and the rest of your life) wonderful! :)</p>

74

<p>While I'm from the northeast, I can't imagine wanting to tell someone I went to Vanderbilt instead of Colgate. Not to mention that I would view Colgate as a much fuller college experience for the reasons others have mentioned above. While no specific ranking should ever be uniformally adhered to, these well known prestige rankings (which generally looks to be in line and make sense) actually has Colgate above Vanderbilt.</p>

<p><a href="http://brody.com/college/resources/college_rankings.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://brody.com/college/resources/college_rankings.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

75

<p>We are from the west coast and our D attends Colgate. Many, many, people have said to us "so Ivy League" when we tell them where our daughter attends school. We always say "no, but it is a very good school." You should stress to your parents, that this is YOUR college experience, and where you want to be if where you will be most successful....</p>

76

<p>That is one idosyncratic list of rankings!</p>

<p>I'll wager if you were to post that anywhere else on CC you'd spark a firestorm of posts.</p>

77

<p>Yeah, that ranking is pretty ****ty I have to admit...
Looking at it just makes me want to slap the person who wasted their time putting it together...
Colgate is nonetheless an awesome school, I just wouldn't go by it's ranking here.</p>

78

<p>"It doesn't even end there; my french teacher didn't even know what Dartmouth was"</p>

<p>Haha, niether did my GC. </p>

<p>Gelino, thanks for the rankings, they may not be very valid, but they were interesting.</p>

79

<p>No problem. I would agree that the Brody rankings are not exact. At the very least, I think it overrates Northwestern, UMich, NYU & Wisc and underrates Tufts, Rice & Wesleyan, but maybe that partially is my east coast bias. But in the spirit of trying to compare national universities with LACs, I think it does a relatively good job. You certainly could argue things like that Bowdoin should only be five spots above Midd/Colgate instead of 14, but overall the list is at least close to the top 50 schools in a pretty reasonable order and is a good reference point.</p>

80

<p>Yeah -- the placement of Wesleyan, Davidson, Rice, and Tufts on the bottom of the Brody list is preposterous. And Pomona below CMC -- and 12 slots below Bowdoin? I could go on. But you get the idea.</p>