<p>"The College of Agriculture and Life Sciences is one of three undergraduate colleges at Cornell that are also part of the State University of New York (SUNY). As a New York State "state-assisted college" we have a unique responsibility to conduct research and public service programs that will benefit the people of the state. In return, the state contributes a significant portion of our operating expenses which provides us with additional funds for student support, faculty salaries, and improved classrooms and laboratories. It also helps keep our tuition lower, making your Cornell degree more affordable. This alliance with the State University of New York allows us to work closely with SUNY's University Colleges of Technology and Community Colleges in advising students on transfer opportunities."</p>
<p>However, it is not considered a SUNY school, and is just as prestigious as the other schools.</p>
<p>Just because it says nothing about SUNY on the diploma, and it is not called the SUNY College of Agriculture and Life Sciences. I know it is affiliated and receives funding, as the post says, but that does not mean it is a SUNY school. I think you would have to be able to apply to CALS through the SUNY general application if it were to be truly considered a SUNY school. </p>
<p>I know it is affiliated and a part of the SUNY system, but the original poster asked if it was a SUNY school, and it is not. It is a land-grant institution that is a part of Cornell University that is private. </p>
<p>I've been doing research with professors who work there for the last year and a half, and when I asked them upon sending my application this year, they told me it was not a SUNY school, but was a part of the system.</p>
<p>i visited Cornell in august and decided not to apply but i was browsing this board and saw this thread and had to throw my own two cents in....CALS is SUNY: A. there are signs that i saw wich had SUNY on them on the buildings and i met with an econ proffesor in A&S and he said and i quote "its the dirty little secret at Cornell"...i had never known that any part of it was state school.</p>
<p>Cornell is not a SUNY school, Cornell is under contract with SUNY to provide instruction under the Cornell umbrella... See the explanation below from the "Ask Uncle Ezra" website.</p>
<p>I searched the archives and apparently nobody has asked this before. How many colleges or universities in the USA besides Cornell, are both endowed and statutory? I don't mean an endowed college that also gets some government funding, but a place where entire pieces are funded one way or the other, as Cornell is. We aren't unique in this, are we? </p>
<p>Cornell is unique...aren't we special in this regard?!** A clarification: many schools receive 'government' funding from Federal, State, and local governments.<strong>We are unique in that Cornell is under contract with the State University of New York system -- SUNY -- to provide instruction under the Cornell umbrella.</strong>The four 'contract colleges' are Veterinary<strong>Medicine, Industrial and Labor Relations (ILR) , College of Agriculture and Life Sciences (CALS), and Human Ecology.</strong>They are not 'state' schools; each are as much Cornell as Arts and Sciences, Engineering, Architecture, Art and Planning (AAP), Hotel, Law, Johnson Graduate School of Management (JGSM) and the Graduate School.<strong>Further, what is unique is that Cornell is New York State's Land Grant University...typically, it is a state university that is each state's Land Grant University (e.g., University of Michigan, University of California, Davis, University of Illinois/Champaign, etc.).</strong>This feature gives us a special diversity - don't you think?</p>
<p>lol words can be played with (not that i think any of this is even relevant to how good Cornell is...) but CALS still is part SUNY...yes its in cornells "umbrella," but its signs said SUNY.....im sure everyone will have a blast there doing whateve their hearts desire! </p>
<p>There is a quote from one of the former Deans of Ag and Life
that goes something like this, "When you tell people you graduated from Cornell, most people from across the US will think of the Ivy covered Arts and Sciences school, while most people from the rest of the world will think of the Agricultural college."</p>
<p>Aggies say it, "We grow the Ivy."</p>
<p>Don't dismiss the Hotel School....The food at Cornell is the best because of them.</p>
<p>Cornell is the unique Ivy League University with a Land Grant College.</p>
<p>Anyone who graduates from Cornell has my respect.</p>
<p>Nope....CALS is part of Cornell, and Cornell only. In fact, the ugrad degree is confered from the Ivy League, so it doesn't matter. Cornell just uses SUNY's money for the most part, and an "alliance" with the suny system doesn't mean anything! Partnerships are very flimsy at best....the moment the suny system stops giving donations to the Ivy league, the alliance will drop like a rock.</p>
<p>"doesn't the fact that you can't apply to cals and humec through the suny application mean anything"</p>
<p>I think you've got some facts wrong. The Ivy league schools only accept their own apps ....there's no other way to apply to Cornell (or other Ivies)! Cornell's app is much tougher to fill out than others that I've seen...all those essay requirements!</p>
<p>At every SUNY school, they expect you to apply through the "suny application." A few of them will take either this suny app or the common app, but absolutely all of them MUST accept to suny app because they are sunys.</p>
<p>With this logic, none of the cornell schools would be true "suny schools" because you can NOT apply using the suny app.</p>
<p>when it comes down to it, the schools are NOT SUNY. </p>
<p>This doesn't mean they're not affiliated with suny, because they are - SUNY (well, the government tells SUNY) provides cash flow to the university. This is the largest connection Cornell has to SUNY. Members of the board of SUNY will also chip in when new deans are elected, but this is really the only time they will have a say in anything ohter than monetary issues. </p>
<p>This has been discussed many times before, the only ones who still say "yes, SUNY" are the ones who have this stigma that only endowed is "true" Cornell. </p>
<p>Here's why Cornell is NOT a SUNY school:
- Faculty are chosen by and paid independently by Cornell University. They are not paid through SUNY - a change in the SUNY pay doesn't affect Cornell and vice versa.
- Cornell operates its contract colleges privately. SUNY doesn't have any type of control over what Cornell does - they only thing they can do is control the amont of cash going into the college. Even so, the governor usually dictates this amount and can trump what SUNY says.
- Students apply to Cornell, not using the general SUNY application.
- Tuition is SIGNIFICANTLY higher at Cornell than the SUNY schools
- The degree is from Cornell, not SUNY
- Professors are chosen by Cornell, not SUNY
- In the eyes of the law, the contract colleges are listed as private. This has been confirmed in a few court cases</p>
<p>Cornell has an obligation to mention SUNY since its the school that takes hundreds of millions of dollars from the state each year. It's a tradeoff, but sooo worth it. </p>
<p>psatmadness - althought you "taught" at CALS, the majority of your other posts indicate you're a current student at case western. How interesting.</p>
<p>I just applied ED Hotel, made good grades in tons of honors and AP classes at a very competitive private school and posted scores SATI 760CR/740M/700W Is that so unusual?</p>