<p>Those people have major hooks and they generally have a significant contribution to the college, athletic ability or otherwise. These people are actually valuable to the school.</p>
<p>“…what do you think about some of the lower scorers?”</p>
<p>Admissions are holistic, not driven unilaterally by SAT scores. When they are accepting only 18% of applicants overall, one has to asssume they were not “forced” to accept the lowest scorers due to lack of applicants. Therefore these applicants must have had other things going for them.</p>
<p>In my day, there was a guy who’d attended my junior high school who I ran into at Cornell. In conversation he admitted he blew his SATs, got in the 400s on some section. Which I found hard to believe, because I knew the guy and he was smart. Evidently, he had a bad day. He wound up becoming a veterinarian.</p>
<p>Some foreign students may be very smart, but english may not be their main language and they may not do well on the Critical Reading section for that reason. Some students are bright and accomplished, but are from backgrounds that have the result that SATs may not accurately reflect their capabilities.</p>
<p>The relative weighting and significance of SATs in admissions probably varies among the colleges. In Art and Architecture they are probably more interested in an applicant’s portfolio. In Hotel they’d probably be more interested in a “personality SAT”, if such existed. In all the specialty colleges some demonstrated affinity for the college’s programs can be significant factors. In CAS extracurriculars and evaluations are given much weight. The process is holistic and based on each college’s needs, which stacks up to more than a set of SAT scores.</p>
<p>The university needs a certain # guys who can shoot a puck adequately, etc, and those guys are competing in a different pool altogether, IMO. Etc. I’m not saying they aren’t smart, I don’t know any of them, but certainly their other contributions are a prominent part of their application. </p>
<p>Lots of special situations. But I’m inclined to suppose that admissions knows what they’re doing.</p>
<p>" I was wondering if, as a whole, Cornell has more math/ science kids or english/ history kids."</p>
<p>Suggest look at the SATdistributions. And/or Schedule J of the university’s Common Data Set entry.</p>
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<p>The small numbers of admits with crappy grades/test scores are essentially all URMs and athletic recruits. I can assure you that the majority of classmates and peers at Cornell will be intelligent, smart, and motivated. Yet, that shouldn’t concern you until you manage to get accepted to Cornell. I visited my friend at Arizona State University last year, and I was appalled by the differences in the academic culture, student caliber, and the overall vibe between Cornell and Arizona State. Kids there literally go out every freaking night and people there had the worst type of attitudes towards academics that I’ve ever seen. I could clearly see why those Arizona State kids would tell me I was a ‘genius’, when I said I attended Cornell.</p>
<p>That school isn’t even worth mentioning…</p>
<p>Why is it that none - nada - of this kind of security / inferiority issues are discussed on any other cc ivy thread, or stanford or mit or amherst threads etc. Why is it only cornell - and I mean only cornell that has these kinds of threads about people arguing over quality, transfer students, other students, etc. Go to the threads and read the posts of the kids that are going to dartmouth, brown, penn - they are so chilled and not talking about anyone else or their sat scores. and those scores mean less and less, as reflected at many schools like penn that now report they are in the column next to “not considered” at all. Something is going on at cornell… exactly what is it? any opinions??? could it possibly be that many cornell students are not content with their choice and second guessing their decision? I hope not!! I know we may not rank up as high as a lot of other schools, but it is still a great school with a great campus. post your opinion here</p>
<p>Well, since you mentioned that the kids in Arizona are partying every night and your shocked by this I was wondering about the amount of parties that happen at Cornell. I thought Cornell was supposed to be a “party school”(not bad but they just know how to party hard in Ithaca). What’s up with this, are the rumors false?</p>
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<p>I picked Cornell for its nice campus, strong academics, strong peers, and post-grad opportunities. However, I absolutely hate Ithaca. Imagine having to pay NYC-level price for a tiny one-bedroom apartment in collegetown, in the middle of freaking upstate NY. I have some friends paying 1600+ for their tiny crappy 1-bedrooms in collegetown. You can get a nice studio room in downtown Manhattan with that much money. Ithaca must be the worst collegetown in the nation in terms of housing. The weather is awful. Location sucks. Yet, I learned a lot - from my peers, good profs, top notch academics. I had a superb academic experience. I feel that most others would agree with me on this. Those who complain about Cornell tend to talk about non-academic issues. (note: housing) </p>
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<p>Umm…wow. LOL.</p>
<p>@england: because people like you keep bringing up the topic… When was there any insecurity. You are digging for something that isn’t there. Unless, you want to keep talking about it and be a hypocrite. If you really care that much and insist on blowing things out of proportion please transfer and go away. You seem very eager to engage in that discussion.</p>
<p>@premed Students who come to cornell prioritizing social life over academics are going to have a very, very tough time… Considering you are a premed student, this is surprising coming from you</p>
<p>I wasn’t even involved in this debate you guys were having. I’m just trying to figure out why only cornell and only cornell has these kinds of threads - no other school has this kind of anxiety or students comparing scores or any of this nonsense. is everyone at cornell like this or is it just a cc thing.
my post was just my feeling, but I think something about cornell is at issue - why, oh why can anyone explain why no other school has a thread with students arguing with each other over scores and things like that - why is it that students at dartmouth and columbia party - a lot and cornell has this anxiety??<br>
antiflamer - I don’t think you will see threads from any other ivy league school like this
is it that kids who went to cornell are second guessing their decision???</p>
<p>my post:</p>
<p>Why is it that none - nada - of this kind of security / inferiority issues are discussed on any other cc ivy thread, or stanford or mit or amherst threads etc. Why is it only cornell - and I mean only cornell that has these kinds of threads about people arguing over quality, transfer students, other students, etc. Go to the threads and read the posts of the kids that are going to dartmouth, brown, penn - they are so chilled and not talking about anyone else or their sat scores. and those scores mean less and less, as reflected at many schools like penn that now report they are in the column next to “not considered” at all. Something is going on at cornell… exactly what is it? any opinions??? could it possibly be that many cornell students are not content with their choice and second guessing their decision? I hope not!! I know we may not rank up as high as a lot of other schools, but it is still a great school with a great campus. post your opinion here</p>
<p>Antiflamer - you have some serious issues my friend.</p>
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<p>Exactly. I created a thread about increasing selectivity of the transfer process because it seems like Cornell accepts and gives second chances to anyone from a cc with a 3.8+, but it seems like some members feel that I’m full of bs and Cornell should accept even more of them. </p>
<p>Honestly, a lot of the incoming transfers partied for four years while the rest of us were studying, then “matured” and got their act together and got into Cornell through the transfer process (which is easier), and then end up getting the same degree without taking any of the weed-out classes and the GPA killers. Tell me how that’s fair.</p>
<p>I bet you certain members (you know who you are) are going to start accusing you and me of being the same person now, Antiflamer.</p>
<p>Poll - just answer yes or no. - If you got in or are in at cornell, and could attend another ivy league school, without knowing which other school the other ivy is - just pot luck, would you take the option. Yes or No. no commentary - just a simple yes or no.</p>
<p>It is not fair. And england, these types of threads pop up in every school forum from time to time. Those schools generally have admissions officers that moderate the forums. We don’t.</p>
<p>If this guy (deadhead) gets in I’m transferring and I bet I’m not the only one if other people realize that such people get in easily as well.</p>
<p>antiflamer - you got the wrong guy - I never said anything anywhere about social life
you don’t have to delete your thread, but next time try to figure out who you are talking to
@deadhead - be prepared for the some hot posts against you by antiflamer.</p>
<p>Anyone care to answer the poll with a simple yes or no??</p>
<p>…? my thread? What thread?
And I never liked deadhead from the start, he knows.
Actually… no, unless I got into harvard, princeton, or yale. I doubt that many students in cornell are as unintelligent as some of the people i have seen on this forum.</p>
<p>What are you trying to prove with your “poll”? Why did YOU ed to this school only to antagonize it?</p>
<p>Poll - just answer yes or no. - If you got in or are in at cornell, and could attend another ivy league school, without knowing which other school the other ivy is - just pot luck, would you take the option. Yes or No. no commentary - just a simple yes or no.</p>
<p>Is it that hard to answer - yes or no.
It will say a lot about whether many wish they were going somewhere else
not answering it, is when you think about, basically saying yes…</p>
<p>So everyone in the world who doesn’t answer this post basically says yes. Good ****, son</p>
<p>stop antagonizing the school
stop with the sat nonsense.
at least you admit that there are other schools you would have gone to - that is the start - good therapy’
reality, in fact, is that you probably would have grabbed penn or columbia in a heart beat, but it may take another hour or 2 to admit that
as for brown - now come on, you would have taken that in a ny second - especially if you are premed and you know how they grade
just be honest with yourself and it helps.
no need to bash cornell
be proud of your school - I am - and I’m also honest</p>
<p>Yeah steal my words because your little brain cannot come up with your own. Those are the exact same words I’ve said to you over several threads.
And no i talked to you specifically in PMs I would not have gone to columbia for anything. Penn, maybe, considering what I get from the admission. Harvard, Princeton, Yale – hell yeah.
And Brown, hell no.</p>
<p>Crawl back into your hole little man. You revealed yourself for what you are. Your false politeness has been on my nerves for quite some time. “I agree with you, you made great points”, blah blah blah - then you go onto argue obstinately on every single point against what the original poster says. If you truly disagree it then just say it.
You are making no sense whatsoever. Who is the one trying to make an obviously biased
poll that makes it seem like cornell is not favored?
I am bashing cornell? What an idiot. I am protecting its integrity by showing the reality, because kids here seem to think that anyone can truly get in with a 3.8 gpa in any community college (There are definitely qualified people from community colleges from time to time though). That is such a joke and such an insult to everyone who got denied with great stats. Their spots cannot be wasted for these unqualified trash.</p>