<p>There is no essay portion of the PSAT so that is not really reflective of her ability with the "essay test format." The PSAT writing is similar to the multiple choice writing part of the SAT. For the real SAT writing the essay portion and the multiple choice portion are averaged by some formula. </p>
<p>If you get enough of the MC (multiple choice) right then you don't need a perfect essay score to get an 800. I missed one MC the first time I took it I think and got a 9 on the essay (out of 12) and that ended up being a 770, the same MC with an 11 essay was an 800. It depends on the curve. The second I took it I got an 11 (without any further prep). It's hard to get a 12 from what I've seen but you don't necessarily need one. Two people judge your essay out of 6, so for an 11 one gave a 5 and one gave a 6. Obviously there's some room for subjectivity here. </p>
<p>At some point there really won't be much difference between a 2300 and a 2400. No one is perfect all the time and that's a few missed problems. I don't know anyone in real life with a 2400 or even a 2300 actually. A lot of people on here purportedly have all these 800s, maybe it's true, maybe it's not. I don't think a lot of it is realistic so I hope that it isn't coloring your opinions.</p>
<p>laserbrother, Carolyn and others are expressing about you continued laser-like focus on SAT scores, and phrases like:
"If we are not satisfied with the score, we will sign her up for the June 9th ACT with writing."
"My DD's PSAT is a dispointing 222 "
What if your DAUGHTER is satisfied with her SAT scores? Are you going to MAKE her take it again? If she does not like writing it may be hard for her to score above 2300, as the writing portion of the SAT comprises 1/3 of the score. You are once again showing how obsessed you are with trying to get your daughter into an elite college, and to what end? It may not happen! SHE is the one applying to colleges, not you! Are you going to make her feel like a failure if she doesn't get into an Ivy? You need to step back and realize that as bright as your daughter is, her future happiness is not contingent on where she is accepted.</p>
<p>And in fact, as Carolyn so heartbreakingly showed, her future happiness might be more dependent on your unconditional love. Unconditional meaning it is not dependent on her SAT or ACT or AP scores, GPA, or where she goes to college.</p>
<p>LB, it is stupid to say a 222 is disappointing because in the US colleges do not put so much emphasis on test as they do in other countries, for example India and China. And I use the word stupid advisedly.</p>
<p>It is not stupid to encourage more students in the US to study science and technology. However, studying science and technology in the US does not always mean cramming to increase a test score by 70 points.</p>
<p>Bill Gates and Steve Jobs both dropped out of school.</p>
<p>Please try to spend as much effort understanding the way the US works as you are now spending on test scores and EFC etc. Then guide your daughter to be able to achieve what she and your family want to achieve. But there's no point in making her do what would work somewhere else with a more centralized success system. She will just wind up frustrated.</p>
<p>alumother, I've wondered the same thing. Are these posts for real? I'm not sure which would be worse, yes or no. If they aren't real, it's disturbing, and if they are, it's very, very sad.</p>
<p>I also have begun to wonder if Laserbrother is for real. Anyone who says there are only four careers - engineer, doctor, lawyer and banker - is either playing with half a deck or a troll. (see his thread on "education to become a lawyer"). </p>
<p>On the off chance that he is for real, I have great sadness for his daughter.</p>
<p>I believe people were chided for suggesting that on an older thread. I believed then, and still do, that the jury is still out on this, though I tend toward the skeptical.</p>
<p>"DD is taking the March 10th SAT I with writing so we will know her score on that by March 29th. Hopefully she will get above 2300 as this is the first time taking the new SAT and she refuses to do ANY preparation work."</p>
<p>is your daughter a super genius who happens to be ranked no.1 in her class as well as being recognized and awarded 1st place at some crazy academic competition.</p>
<p>cause if not
ur a terrible parent to EXPECT a 2300</p>
<p>"Carolyn. My DD's PSAT is a dispointing 222 and she knew that. She is not a bad writter but just dislike the essay test format."
nvm
u r pathetic to be dissapointed at that.
that score is in the top 99.9 percentile.</p>
<p>and for u to not be happy is your daughter gets a 2300 sat, u r a fool.</p>
<p>2300's get into harvard (im not saying that if someone has a 2300, they automatically get in, but thats about average for harvard acceptants)</p>
<p>and
yeah maybe u r just a troll
cause if ur not
it would suck to be your daughter.</p>
<p>I know people like LB. I've heard their expectations of their children. Their children are often enrolled in SAT classes for years. The kids do not leave the house on weekends in order to study. They believe education and name colleges are the key to success. Pharmacy is often included in acceptable professions list.
So, I want LB to continue to post. He appears to read responses and may learn from the collected wisdom. IMHO</p>
<p>One of our S's best friends got a 1590 on the 1600 scale. In 8th grade. His parents grounded him because he hadn't applied himself enough to get 1600. (Did I mention he was in 8th grade?)</p>
<p>He was a very sad young man. He pulled himself out of his passive aggressive behavioral response (refused to do homework, etc.) and is now doing just fine, but only because he distanced himself from his parents.</p>
<p>If LB is a real poster, then his definition of success is skewed. I won't add to what the other parents on the law forum blasted him with - they got it right.</p>
<p>To answer the initial question, just wanted to add that if LB's expectations for his daughter are so high, it would be advisable for her to take the writing section of the ACT. She may score very well on the ACT and prefer to submit it instead of the SAT In that case, many schools do want to see the writing section. And it will not affect the ACT composite score.</p>
<p>My son bombed on the writing section of the ACT (while not classified, he had writing issues for many years, and needs to use the computer and editing process to achieve his best writing results. Timed, handwritten tests are like death for him!), but ended up with a 33 composite. His first try he got a 31 composite, but did not take the writing.</p>
<p>I won't comment on the rest of LB's posts - in different threads they are always the same. I think his daughter must have a helluva lot of pressure on her head.</p>