<p>Has anyone seen some of the threads on ED results for Stanford? if yes then you are probably still in shock. Almost perfect people were rejected. So how does that compare to EDs in Columbia this year? Is it very bad as well?</p>
<p>Yes. Blatant Columbia trolling.</p>
<p>It's incredibly difficult to get into any top-10. Duke and Chicago are technically the least selective, but it's still quite difficult. However, Stanford is by far more selective than Columbia, even with its larger enrollment. And its popularity on the west coast can't really be beat.</p>
<p>Stanford's not 'by far' more selective than Columbia. They're both quite difficult to get into, RD especially. I'm guessing Columbia College's RD acceptance rate this year will be around 6%. </p>
<p>But Columbia ED is probably 'easier' than Stanford EA.</p>
<p>"However, Stanford is by far more selective than Columbia, even with its larger enrollment. And its popularity on the west coast can't really be beat."</p>
<p>actually not really, their acceptance rates are about the same, the sat scores of admitted students are about the same:</p>
<p>College</a> Search - Columbia University - SAT®, AP®, CLEP®
College</a> Search - Stanford University - THE FARM - SAT®, AP®, CLEP®</p>
<p>I don't care what mommy tells you, they're nearly as difficult to get in to.</p>
<p>browse through these^ pages.</p>
<p>both columbia and stanford are known to take non-traditional/weird/quirky students, both place a high value on diversity, their admissions standards are similar. perhaps ED creates lower standard than EA, but overall they're hardly different.</p>
<p>Stanford is a lot more selective than Columbia. The applicant pool for Stanford overlaps at points with Columbia, but as a whole I think its more qualified. Plus, a lot of kids from NYC and the Northeast just blindly apply to Columbia to see if they get in. To apply to Stanford you have to write a pretty grueling application. I think Columbia sees most of its applications from a relatively small radius around it. Stanford gets about half of its applications from Cali, which is HUGE, but also half from outside. The acceptance rate for RD at Stanford will be about 5%, which I'm willing to guarantee will be lower than Columbia but a point, at least. And 1% is a big difference.</p>
<p>hmm. is getting in regular decision harder than ED? I always thought ED was harder because the strongest students usually apply early and feel ready. Is RD acceptance enormously low because there are just more less qualified people in that crowd?</p>
<p>ED is a more self-selective applicant pool, so although the admit rates are higher, it is a much more qualified pool the applicant is up against. Plus, recruits tend to come in early. RD each year is getting a larger and larger applicant pool, meaning its getting more and more qualified applicants, in addition to more and more unqualified applicants. The admit rate is low because the unqualified applicants are numerous and get turned away, and then the qualified applicants force the college to turn away even more.</p>
<p>"Stanford is a lot more selective than Columbia. The applicant pool for Stanford overlaps at points with Columbia, but as a whole I think its more qualified."</p>
<p>how credible coming from a soon to be stanford student!!</p>
<p>"Plus, a lot of kids from NYC and the Northeast just blindly apply to Columbia to see if they get in"</p>
<p>how is this any less true for west coast kids applying to stanford, or kids applying to harvard / (insert any top school).</p>
<p>"To apply to Stanford you have to write a pretty grueling application."</p>
<p>columbia doesn't use the common app, that should weed out the lottery ticketers just like your oh so 'grueling' app.</p>
<p>"I think Columbia sees most of its applications from a relatively small radius around it. Stanford gets about half of its applications from Cali, which is HUGE, but also half from outside"</p>
<p>where on earth do you get this about columbia? I'm pretty sure like a quarter of columbia's apps are from new york state. fully half from cali is not a narrow pool? </p>
<p>"The acceptance rate for RD at Stanford will be about 5%, which I'm willing to guarantee will be lower than Columbia but a point, at least. And 1% is a big difference."</p>
<p>you just love baseless opinions/predictions right?</p>
<p>Stanford has three supplemental essays plus short answers. The only thing that differentiates Columbia from the bare common app is the 600 character why columbia micro-essay. It is incredibly easy to blindly apply to columbia, impossible for Stanford (unless the applicant is trying to get rejected). I've been told by multiple people in NYC that everyone just applies to Columbia. I doubt everyone does, but a large number do. And there are more people concentrated right around NYC than around Stanford. Much more. You have New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, and Massachusetts closer to the school than a good portion of New York itself. Of course Columbia is well known, but not nearly as much as Stanford. Stanford gets 60% of its apps from outside Cali, and its pretty well isolated in Cali. North Cali, by the way, which is essentially a different state than SoCal. Stanford expects 27000 applications overall this year, and to have an admit rate of less than 9%. They let in 12% of SCEA applicants, which is most certainly a more selective applicant pool, and also includes, to my knowledge, the recruits, and Stanford does a ton of recruiting. That leaves an admission rate of about 5% for regular decision. I have seen no numbers for Columbia, but I'm willing to bet their RD rate is greater than 5%.</p>
<p>I agree with GimmeStanford, but then again maybe I should stop defending stanford..... T.T</p>
<p>I'm so sorry...but this is lame...I'm not going to point any fingers, but sincerely, the college admission process is NOT about arguing which school is the hardest to get into, get into the school, and stomp on other people's admits because one school is harder to get into than another...this process is one that each student goes through to find a school that is right for them--one that will suit them for the next four years. I'm sorry...but USNWR rankings, acceptance ranks, are BS if you ask me. If you're going to Stanford, Congrats! But why waste time developing a well argued paragraph about how your admit was harder than a Columbia student's? Plus, who cares what college you got into? Come grad school applications, schools won't be looking at whether you got your degree from Stanford or Columbia, and give sympathy to the Stanford student because he had a harder time getting in...they will only focus on the GPA. So all of you...no offense...but get over acceptance rates! Find a school that's right for you! A lot of NYC people happen to apply to Columbia because yes, NYC is an amazing city. Exactly why a suburban kid like me applied to Columbia (and yes, admitted through ED). Could I have been accepted to Stanford? Who knows? Who cares? I'm blessed to go to an amazing school, in an amazing city, and get an amazing education. End of story. Throwing all this empirical data won't do anything but damage a potential relationship! So get over it...these threads...these, "which school is harder to get into" threads kill me...Ivy League schools do not have a formula--a student could have a good chance of getting in with the GPA and SAT, but at such a caliber, there is also a randomness to the admission process...exactly why people, even with such incredible GPA and SAT do get rejected, deferred! </p>
<p>OK end of story...just all of you...no school is harder than another...</p>
<p>^^loved that</p>
<p>Hmmm I'm not sure where I said anything like "Stanford is leaps and bounds above Columbia". I said it was undeniably more selective, which it is. Didn't say anything about the quality of Columbia relative to Stanford though. Which, I guess, makes you a liar. </p>
<p>I have nothing to back up my opinion, but I do sincerely believe a Stanford degree would be looked at more highly than a Columbia degree. You can disagree, but until you provide some proof, your undeveloped argument means nothing to me.</p>
<p>Nobody wants to argue with you over acceptance rates.Stanford has a lower acceptance rate. Slightly. Fine. </p>
<p>The rest of your points, like whether Stanford is 'unquestionably harder to get into' or is automatically preferred by grad schools over Columbia, I disagree with, but honestly I don't see the point in arguing over it. I have high respect for Stanford and high respect for the school I'm attending next year (Columbia).</p>
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<p>Leaps and bounds. Oh, and just for your info, last year's RD admission rates:</p>
<p>Columbia University: 11%</p>
<p>Stanford University: 10%</p>
<p>Yeah, a hell of a lot more.</p>
<p>BTW: Congrats thebeef on your acceptance.</p>
<p>I think both are quite hard schools to get into. I think getting a degree from either college is highly respected. I think both excel in particular academic areas. I, for one, would be hella happy if I got into either one. :)</p>
<p>i absolutely LOVE stanford, but ^ you are one person i would want to slap if i went there. no offense (wait, jk. i'm lying..), but you are giving stanford students a hell of a bad name.</p>
<p>This year, last year, last 25 years. And there is nothing to indicate that this will change any time soon.</p>
<p>Come grad school applications, a Columbia undergrad degree, in most cases, would be more impressive than a Stanford degree.</p>
<p>I'm a bit surprised by this thread. The concept of "self-selection" has not yet been introduced. "Selectivity" relates to acceptance rate only if one assumes that the same candidates apply to the same schools. The University of Chicago has a relatively high acceptance rate compared to Stanford or Columbia, but I suspect that Chicago students are as well qualified, and achieve similar graduate school and/or career success, as Stanford or Columbia students. I may be wrong (and, if so, expect to hear about it), but at some level these comparisons equate to counting the number of angels on the head of a pin...</p>
<p>If one conducts a college selection search properly, he or she selects a college that is a proper fit. My son, who will attend Columbia next fall, had no interest in Stanford following his campus visit. He was there for a couple of days, and spent the night with an acquaintance from his high school, but could not shake the impression that Stanford is "a country club where people go to school." (I, on the other hand, would love to spend the next four years among the Palo Alto palm trees.) Upon entering the Columbia campus, however, he knew it was his first choice. Why? Who knows? Who cares? Could he have gotten in to Stanford? He had as good a shot as any, but who knows? Who cares?</p>