<p>It looks like HY are 1 and 2, but P is definitely not 3. P actually comes in at 6. Yet HYSCMP are way ahead of 7 if you look at the raw numbers.</p>
<p>Maybe HYP is just in reference to the Ivy schools, and not overall.</p>
<p>HYP is a reference to undergraduate education.</p>
<p>You'll get flamed for bringing up the NBER for sure. I think it shows that HYP and Stanford are a group apart on a scattershot graph. The relatively large gap Between H and P, and the closeness of H and Y are the most surprising finding. But the data isn't all that deep, and I don't think they factored in the effects of ED, which tended to lower the scores of Y and P vs H, for reasons that are too boring to expalain, unless you are truly interested.</p>
<p>Neither. It's just H.</p>
<p>(Joking)</p>
<p>I was under the impression that HYP is not a term that ranks the schools; it's just a reference to Harvard, Yale, and Princeton as one elite entity lol.</p>
<p>The "Revealed Preference" rankings reflect the attitudes of most applicants about the relative desirability of colleges.</p>
<p>Its a "winner take all" system, where schools higher up the academic food chain almost invariably outpace those farther down in cross-admit faceoffs.</p>
<p>wow. someone actually wrote a 45-page paper on ranking colleges.</p>
<p>I'm against grouping H, Y, and P together. They don't belong together. I've pointed out too many times that they're the first three letters of hype but that's getting old by now.</p>
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<p>Well, it's also in order of age and supposedly in order of prestige/selectivity. Though Yale had the lowest acceptance rate (9.9%) last year, many years Harvard (10.3%) is lower.</p>
<p>That bogus "acceptance rate" measure of "selectivity" may not avail the Elis this year, since Harvard apps just jumped 15% to 22,717. Of course its possible that an equally large increase may be announced by Yale next week.</p>
<p>Byerly, that's an impressive jump, to be sure. But Yalies still get more action. ;)</p>
<p>Hey, you use whatever edge you have, I guess!</p>
<p>I might not matter to certain individuals who lack interest in the opposite sex.</p>
<p>Well, you know what they say at Yale!</p>
<p>Yes, of course - that Harvard is the ugly, sexless version of Yale.</p>
<p>Is that what they say? </p>
<p>Hmmm.... I was thinking of that famous Yale mantra: "One in four, and maybe more!"</p>
<p>But then - forgive me ... let me withdraw that: </p>
<p>I keep forgetting that the purpose of College Confidential is not to foster back-and-forth "debate", but to allow partisans of various schools -each in their own coccoon - to engage in self-congratulation and sling insults happily at "the enemy" without fear of retribution.</p>
<p>I think its called "building school spirit."</p>
<p>Because it's not like you've /ever/ done that with Harvard, Byerly. /Ever/.</p>
<p>Back on topic: I think HYP, or even HYPSM, refers to the prestige and difficulty to get into those schools - i.e. it can be thought of as a 'given' that if you're going to HYPSM, you're pretty hot stuff. The ultimate attainable, etc. So for that reason I definitely think Princeton belongs in there, although I will agree that Harvard and Yale are more widely recognized as amazing schools by the general populace.</p>
<p>I would take exception to your post, prettyfish, but I do undertand that on this page future Yalies are specifically allowed to puff up Yale and to insult and put down other schools without fear of being called out.</p>
<p>Oh, is that the ratio you're more interested in Byerly? I didn't know... oh, and Harvard is actually said to be the "socially inept" version of Yale, as you are here to proudly demonstrate. I apologize for any confusion this may have caused you.</p>
<p>Who ya gonna "call out" Byerly? I can't wait to see Byerly call out someone... that is hilarious. Some people just take themselves too seriously. Let me get some popcorn...</p>
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