Is it possible still? (Acceptance into Ivies)

Freshman year was the mistake; 3.3 GPA (first two quarters had a 2.7 GPA, following 2 quarters bumped to 3.9)
Sophomore year; 3.89 GPA
Junior year; 4.0 (unweighted, two APs)
Senior year; 4.0 (unweighted, 6 APs)
Cumulative comes to just around 3.8 GPA (unweighted of course)

Clearly there has been gradual and consistent improvement in my GPA over the years. However, I’m wondering if my freshman year will have screwed me over from a realistic shot at getting into a University like Stanford … or maybe they’ll see the improvement from low to high GPA in an almost good light. There is no college-application-interesting story behind the improvement other than being less lazy and more motivated, if that’s important to consider.

Of course GPA alone isn’t much to determine anything, but let’s assume my extracurriculars and ACT/SAT scores are on-par with the other applicants. Does my GPA essentially discredit any chance I have now?

Yes, you can definitely still be accepted to Ivies. Your UW GPA is fine as long as you’re in the top 10% of your class.

No your unweighted GPA is in the range for ivy league, but how do you already know your senior year GPA? Are you looking to transfer into ivy leagues? Also what are your extracurriculars because GPA alone isn’t enough of an indicator

If you mess up with your GPA early on, but show an upward trend, it’s okay and you could still get admitted into top schools. However, if your only reason is that you were lazy, then top-tier schools and the AO will know that and it looks bad. If you have a good explanation for your GPA (Bullying, home issues, etc.) you should have your counselor or something that explains it. You can still get in if your ranking is good and your EC’s are good enough, but if you were just being lazy it will definitely harm your chances.

in reply to collegeready33, the senior year was hypothetically speaking so I would get answers assuming the best-case scenario. Answer is yes, I can still be accepted :slight_smile: I just have to make sure senior year goes as predicted (and I feel confident it can happen)

Thing is having a competitive GPA and good academics won’t get you into ivies unless you’re the President’s child. Your EC’s, Hooks, and awards really matter more than GPA. People with stellar EC’s and hooks will get into an ivy with a bad GPA, but a person with a stellar GPA and academics won’t get into an ivy with bad EC’s. (By bad I mean sub-par; maybe like a 3.7 and top 7%)

I understand that, which is why I originally said assuming EC’s and the rest were sufficient

Ik, i’m just saying that really GPA is only one minor aspect, so the sufficiency of the EC’s is what matters.
If by sufficient, you mean your EC’s are average and “on par” like you said, you would have a chance of getting in that’s slightly below the admissions rate for whatever school.

If by sufficient you mean your EC’s already standout, and your wondering whether your GPA would bring you from getting in into not getting in, then probably not.

Really you can still get in, but the point of this thread is kinda useless it’d be like asking “can I get into ivies with a 1500 SAT” or “can I get into ivies if I apply there”. I’m trynna say you can get in, but it doesn’t matter about your GPA so much as what makes up for it being slightly below average. Anyone can get into an ivy, but based off what you said, since we know very little about you, your question is essentially the same as “can i get into an ivy if I apply there”.

If OP is in a unhooked pool, any blemish like a 3.3 GPA can sink the chance to Stanford and Ivies.

Though my question has been answered, I can give some quick “stats” to clear some uncertainties that knowing nothing more than my GPA brought.
36 ACT Composite
EC’s I’ll list maybe piano at an advanced level, won state competitions. Gaming, I play competitively and hold World Record times in a particular game (this is so obscure it might not even count as an EC haha, though I have created a large audience through it and make money off of it, so who knows). Lastly I plan to do some humanitarian project this summer.

@jzducol, do you believe that an unhooked kid is DOA at tippy top selectives if the 3.3 occurs in 9th grade, even with a strong upward trend all years thereafter? Even if the student maintains a 3.9-4.0 for three subsequent years?

I don’t know the definitive answer. Obviously, this is a realm where >90% of kids wth near-perfect stats and grades are getting rejected so any flaw only further decreases chances. But I would hate to think a kid has blown chances by age 15.

^ Well, a 3.3 GPA only at 9th grade, followed by 4.0, ten APs, SAT1580 ACT, national/int awards, stellar LoRs etc, would be a very rare case among unhooked applicants, at least I have not seen one. I imagine everything is possible. But from recent Harvard lawsuit data, they do rank applicants in academics, and for unhooked AOs seem to find reasons to reject rather than accept an applicant.

There is a clear and great upward trend and admissions will commend you for improving your grades. There is definitely still a chance. Supplement these stats with a great essay and ECs and you’re good to go. Of course Ivies are a reach for anyone still

“I plan to do some humanitarian project this summer.”

Hopefully you’ll be able to describe it in a slightly more appealing way. This sounds a lot like “check the box that says I care about people”. :slight_smile: