<p>I have been in love with Penn for the longest time! I am confident that it is the place for me and is perfect. However, I chose not to ED because I thought I had little to no chance. Instead, I applied ED to Cornell but to their AEM program which is quite selective so chances of me there are not great.</p>
<p>I am working on my Penn RD application at the moment. Now, my question is, is it possible to get in if you are not in the top 10% of your high school class? I am in my school's second top 10% and I know at Penn, 99% of the class is in the top 10% (this is the reason I never applied ED). My scores are 1400 and 2130 with a 770 in math (probably would major in). I am applying to CAS and have no real hooks. Now, I would rather not just throw in an application as a donation. I want to make my chances of acceptance as high as possible. I feel I should just take a huge risk on the Penn essays. Any suggestions? Is acceptance still possible for me? I just keep coming back to Penn even after realizing that I won't get in =(.</p>
<p>I’m sorry the chances are pretty slim. I wouldn’t bet on it for anyone unless their parents are famous/billionaires.
Your only chance would be to write a 217 essay unlike any ever done before</p>
<p>I don’t get why you applied to Cornell ED if you wanted to go with Penn. They are both equally selective schools. Maybe there’s a slight edge for Cornell since I’m assuming that you’re from NY, but it’s still about the same chance/reach. I don’t understand WHY you don’t think you’ll get in.</p>
<p>Your SATI score is just fine. Your rank isn’t bad either. (Second top 10% means top 20%? Being top 20% isn’t the end of the world… especially if your class is very small) If SAT scores and ranking were the only things that turned you away from applying to Penn then… that wasn’t a good decision for yourself.</p>
<p>Do you want to spend the rest of your life not knowing whether you could have got into your dream school? That’s up to you. Note that Penn looks pretty highly on essays, assuming that you have an adequate GPA and a few good ECs. But good luck to you for Cornell and Penn too if you apply.</p>
<p>Go for it! If you don’t, you’ll always wonder what your life would have been like had you been accepted to Penn. </p>
<p>Per previously posted statistics on the Penn website - which have since been taken down - students in the second decile are accepted at somewhere around a 0 - 3% rate (I can’t remember exactly). By not applying, your chances are 0%.</p>
<p>Go for your dreams, no matter what the statistics say. Giving up is not the hallmark of someone with perseverance. </p>
<p>Persevere and prevail. I’m looking at your statistics and already know you can do it, even if it isn’t necessarily at Penn; you just need to believe in yourself.</p>
<p>^770 math is sometimes one wrong(as it was last month). I’m sure they’ll consider that people make careless errors & there’s little to differentiate between a 770&800 in math reasoning</p>
<p>(1) Your comment was unnecessary, and I doubt the OP appreciated it;
(2) It was an epic fail, as it doesn’t fit in the context of the sentence;
(3) But if you actually think being delusional is the hallmark of someone with perseverance, you yourself are delusional;
(4) As for the statistics, yes, it is much harder to get in as an applicant from the second decile;
(5) However, there is not a single published statistic that says no unhooked applicants with average test scores in the second decile don’t get in, so don’t spew unsupported rubbish that shatters the OP’s dreams;
(6) I encouraged the OP to be realistic.</p>
<p>sorry I did not get a 800 on math, i got one question wrong, silly mistake, kill me, I’m not perfect</p>
<p>thanks for your encouragement (some of you)! i appreciate it. it’s like getting over a relationship. (even though Penn and I were never really together… =/ ) just gotta give it some time </p>
<p>don’t worry about me though, you all get your ED decisions this week! GOOD LUCK!!!</p>
<p><(6) I encouraged the OP to be realistic. ></p>
<p>Sorry, I am blind. Where did you encourage him to be realistic? More like encouraging him to jump up 50 feet in the air without any equipment. </p>
<p>Delusional. The reality is worse than you think, and this whole American attitude of “never give up” and “always have a positive attitude no matter what” is depressing, and a waste of time. But if it helps to trick oneself, go ahead. </p>
<p>And my comment was reffering to YOUR comment, not to the OP. But you are so stupid, you epically failed to realize that it was sarcasm. (Ooo, you get to insult me but I can’t?)</p>
<p>And as for the statistics part, you drew a ridiculous and far-fetched implication from my statement just so that you can add some more sentences. Did I mention anything about statistics? No. Did I mention that he couldn’t get in? No.</p>
<p>So, in the end, the only correct part is your (1). Even then, your (1) also applies to the post that you made.</p>
<p>I didn’t want to resort to * ad hominem * attacks, but you’ve given me no other choice. </p>
<p>Per your previous posts, your SAT score is a 1990, and you’re an international. Clearly your inferential skills in English are lacking. The following statement insinuates that the OP should not have his hopes pinned on Penn:</p>
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<p>In general, your posts reek of negativity, and it feels like you’re venting your disappointment. Instead of bringing down others, why can’t you find a more constructive outlet?</p>
<p>Oh, I almost forgot - this American attitude of “never give up” is what will get the OP into Penn or Penn-caliber schools for undergraduate or graduate studies. Do you really believe that Penn wants to admit people that give up, that aren’t persistent, that aren’t determined? I think you and I both know the answer to that question.</p>