<p>well yeah but how many people %wise end up at a LAC? </p>
<p>but if agree. if you want personal attention at berkeley, you have to fight for it. but other than that, the experience isnt much different than any other large college with the exception of those that claim to focus on undergrads (princeton and friends.)</p>
<p>I agree. Fight fight fight.</p>
<p>i think overall the UCLA campus is more aesthetically pleasing than Berkeley. Also, its surrounding area is much nicer to berkeley, with access to some great places in westwood (i guess it depends on what you like). The weather is more mediterranean down there, with more sun and warmer temps. </p>
<p>location/campus wise, i personally think ucla dominates berkeley.</p>
<p>unlmitedx - what are FPF and gsi?</p>
<p>"The distance between UCLA and the Bay Area is international in some regions."
What do you mean? I won't get into UCLA any cheaper than someone OOS?</p>
<p>FPF is the Fall Program for Freshmen. It's a 600 size program for students in the fall for a randomly selected group of students. FPF students have historically earned a higher cumulative GPA compared to fall admits.</p>
<p>GSI you will soon know soon enough to mean Graduate Student Instructors. They are the ones the lead sections and grade your exams and midterms. The professor lectures, and that's basically how he does (a source for information).</p>
<p>It was a bit difficult for me to adjust in the spring because in FPF, the professors both lectured and led the sections, which DEFINITELY made it easier to know the professor and ask questions more effectively. It was also a lot easier to make friends as I said before.</p>
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What do you mean? I won't get into UCLA any cheaper than someone OOS?
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<p>No, I just mean that the physical distance between Cal and UCLA is large enough that you can feel "far away." In Europe, the same distance is likely to take you through at least two countries.</p>
<p>Oh, got it.</p>
<p>upper division classes are fun.........they're small (generally in the humanities depts) and you get to know everyone in class.....@_@</p>
<p>Can't wait until upper divison! I really dislike these huge lectures.</p>
<p>I loved my large lectures. It made doodling and dozing so much easier...</p>
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<p>location/campus wise, i personally think ucla dominates berkeley.
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<p>I think people generally prefer one to the other. Also, doesn't it rain in the Mediterranean? That isn't be very LA. If anyone posted average temperatures per month and number of days raining per month, that would be helpful. It's generally slightly colder in Berk than Westwood, and it probably rains twice as much (which is still not much at all relative to say, most places in the world). Most of the rain is shortlived.</p>
<p>I think that most people consider LA's weather to be "Mediterranean." They even do in Japanese.</p>
<p>Then I guess people don't understand the Mediterranean as a whole. My Rhetoric professor, when we were reading Nietzsche's Ecce Homo, said of one of his passages in which he describes ideal weather (based on his summers in Italy, I believe) that it's a lot like the Bay Area. </p>
<p>I wasn't sure how to form that sentence, so the above will have to do.</p>
<p>UCLA's weather is nice. Berkeley's is, too, and there most certainly is more rain and more brisk days here.</p>
<p>Ah, so that's who those annoying little twerps were that one weekend: high school debaters. </p>
<p>On a more serious note, I'm more a fan of Yale's campus (old buildings, more antique, etc.) but Berkeley's campus is alright. I liked UCLA's campus (it's gorgeous), but I disliked LA and the crappy weather, and Davis doesn't even have a campus. Or at least, I don't count farmland as a campus. </p>
<p>I only visited a few colleges when i applied, and my first impression was "Berkeley's campus is huge," but it's pretty manageable once you get to know the place. It's definitely not ugly, even if it's not my preference.</p>
<p>Well, NeedAdvice, a lot of people hate Yale's campus and atmosphere. I bring up this because many would consider you the minority here (although I agree with you). This is just another example of how different people feel different ways about different things so that people should get first hand experience with them as much as they can.</p>
<p>Berkeley's campus isn't that big relative to many other schools, for example, Stanford. That's a lot of land, and I think the used parts are much larger than Berkeley's used parts of campus.</p>
<p>Ah, ok. I visited Stanford too (although i didn't apply) and I can't say I'm a fan of that campus. It reminds me of Davis's campus. Yuck at Stanford, in my opinion. I really didn't like Stanford. </p>
<p>Berkeley's campus is definitely manageable, and i can see the map in my head now.</p>
<p>I like Stanford's campus, as well as Berkeley's. I'm just a campus liking whore, I guess. But yeah, different strokes for different folks. Haven't seen Davis yet . . . need to go visit friends there soon.</p>
<p>haha @ campus liking whore.</p>
<p>My favorite campus is Harry potter's though. I'd love to study in Hogwarts-style buildings. </p>
<p>Well, maybe Davis's campus will be your one dislike?</p>
<p>I don't particularly like the idea of Merced. Or the idea of . . . NYU. I mean, give me a real campu, please. As awesome as NYU and the Village are, I want some land (not just buildings) that are my school's. Walking through New York and NYU at 3 in the morning is fun, though.</p>
<p>I've never been to NYC, but it is my ultimate DREAM city. I really plan on applying to NYU for graduate school too. God I love it. Call me naive, but I love it. </p>
<p>But yeah, how many buildings does Merced have? 2? *Shudder</p>