<p>So you share my dislike of B&Bs??</p>
<p>All these replies are ridiculous! As a graduate Liberty University I can tell you that academically they are solid! They are founded on Biblical principles and their academics coincide with that, as the Bible is referenced in every class. Most classes begin with prayer, with prayer requests. As for the rules. They are good rules. The reason I chose to go to Christian University is because I did not want to be a part of the party scene, wanted to grow in my faith with Christ and mature as a person and be a better man. Liberty does not charge obscene amounts of money for “breaking the rules” in many cases reprimands (a point system) are handed out. It is not until a student reaches a certain amount that he/she will have to pay money. In addition the rules have loosened up quite a bit. When I graduated in 2008 the dress code is very lenient, the rules have loosened for most. The rule that should not and will not change is the party rule. A christian university should be an example of Christ, how does a party with drinking, sex and drugs portray Christ in a good way. Jerry Falwell, which was a great man of God, not as the media or you left-wing nuts made him to be, and shame on you, always told us “If it’s Christian it should be better!” It he was right on with that statement. As Followers of Christ we are called to a higher calling to be in the world not of the world!</p>
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<p>This is a totally self-contradictory statement. The Bible is a book of faith: “the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.” An institution built around faith, that teaches as “truth” those tenets that are the product of unseen hope, is not academically higher education. It may be many other things, and may have value as those other things, but as a college or university that is offering higher education - absolutely not. By its own definition - absolutely not.</p>
<p>Wow…I don’t think you have a clue of what you’re talking about. Liberty teaches the Bible as truth. The is not just a book for the Christian faith, it is truth, absolute truth.It is God Breathed and inspired by God himself. Call it what ever you want. I would say Liberty is an Institution of Higher Higher education…if there was such thing. The call to be a Christ Follower is a daunting task, one that is much harder than living as an unbeliever.</p>
<p>I agree with those saying stay far, far away from Liberty. The quality of the student body is very poor. The faculty all have to pass stringent religious litmus tests. And most damning of all, a Liberty degree in many quarters will be an automatic rejection.</p>
<p>Even if you’re a socially conservative evangelical, I wouldn’t recommend the place. All but the most liberal campuses will have conservative political and religious organizations where you can meet and hang out with people of similar philosophies. And, you’ll be getting a degree that will be respected and valued by more than just a tiny swath of the population.</p>
<p>I think the grammar from the above graduate of Liberty University speaks to the college’s quality quite eloquently. It’s not a quality student body. It’s not a quality university.</p>
<p>I think again, you have no clue of what you are speaking of. Did you attend there? Also i was a Bible Major, not an English major. As to your note on having a degree from Liberty will likely be an automatic rejection you should check again, and this is personal experience, every single one of my friends that graduated from LU all have jobs in their field!! Also, Forbes magazine printed an article a couple years ago that companies love applicants that have degrees from Christian Institutions, because of their integrity and work ethic. Also to the comment about the student body, its is more diverse than most other Universities, we represent people from 70 different countries and all 50 states. Have you ever been to class on a Monday morning, and your teacher is wide awake and alert? As opposed to be a Graduate Assistant who is hungover from the week. Now that is a truly hard class!!</p>
<p>To the person who personally attacked me. That’s really not cool. You should check your motives. Are you trying to inform people about the school, or are you trying to degrade those of us that have good things to say about the University?</p>
<p>Simply Put, if you are a Christian and you want to grow in your faith with Christ, grow as a person, not have to party, but be serious about your academics and your relationship with Christ, Liberty University will be the perfect school for you!</p>
<p>rkpeeples- You aren’t doing Liberty any favors. The thread is 8 pages long. People can draw their own conclusions. A college grad should be able to express himself clearly and articulately with proper grammar- no matter what the major. I assume you had to write many papers during your 4 years at Liberty.<br>
It is possible to grown in your faith as a Christian and attend a much better university and (gasp) even have a beer or two on the weekends!</p>
<p>I’m a third year at UVA, and I assure you that first, no one “has to party,” and second, I’ve never been to a class with a tired or hung over instructor. No one “personally attacked” you. Someone commented on your bad grammar and poor writing style. I’m sorry, but I have to agree there - the fact that you are not an English major is no excuse. I’m a Chemistry major and I know how to write because my university has writing requirements.
Also, I’m sorry, but even if you have the best work ethic in the world, “Bible Major” is not a real degree.</p>
<p>Old thread, but the only reason I knew about this school was Jon Stewart made fun of it one night on the Daily Show.</p>
<p>I’m an evangelical Christian and I would never consider going to Liberty. I did seriously consider attending Wheaton College (In Illinois), but chose UVA instead.</p>
<p>Nobody at LU would claim it is in the same league of UVa or W&M. LU takes mostly average kids and tries to make something out of them. It’s much easier to be UVa and take really bright kids and not screw them up too much. Some LU grads do very well and go on to better grad schools. The education grads seem to be in fairly high demand in the state. The new law school has done very well at preparing kids for the bar exam. The place is barely 30 years old at the current location and has made great strides in both building out a real campus and building academics. They had serious financial issues about 30 years ago and barely survived but are now well set and building a larger endowment. They have eased back on some of the social rules and seem to be on the way to becoming somewhat more mainstream. The campus is also very diverse with a large number of students coming from Africa. Not many colleges have been so active in bringing in native Africans for a college education. </p>
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<p>People should respect the school for what it is. If you don’t believe in their teachings, then don’t go there, period. Employers should hire based on academic merit, in which, yes, Liberty doesn’t stand as strong as your precious Ivies and first-tiers. If they don’t want to handle a Christian spewing out what must be seen as obscene junk, then that’s their business too. But call me naive, but I don’t think the majority of employers worry too much about the latter so much as about the former. Incoming students know the risk they’re taking in attending, and, for them, growing strong in their faith is their ultimate goal in life, whether you like it or not. Just respect that as their (our) choice. They know they’re going to be criticized for it, but they’re strong enough to face it.</p>
<p>For one, I believe what rkpeeples says about the Bible. I attended a series of Christian elementary schools and a middle school that very much taught what Liberty is said to teach. I’ve seen miracles and prayers answered in my personal life, and they’re actually pretty cool (and I was quite skeptical, but it’s hard not to believe after that). And now I go to a top secular university, and there are people who are hard-core Christians, even on my floor (among lots of atheists and agnostics and those of many other faiths as well), who do not believe in evolution and who read the Bible regularly. I myself wish I could have the courage to live up to that. Not all of us do feel the need to go to a Christian institution to keep our faith. But I admire those students who go to Liberty who make it their priority in life, unlike the rest of us, who are obsessed about money and wordly things. And, as in every other group, there will be nuts among us who stand out, but often, it is the average person walking past you on the street who is a Christian. Your doctor, your dentist, your lawyer, your boss could just as well be a Christian as your plumber, your electrician, your cab driver.</p>
<p>I’m not saying the school is a top institution, but I just think it should get more respect for its own beliefs. It is definitely not a school for everyone, but people should not be looked down upon just because they decide to attend. It is different (and where’s the so-called tolerance for that?), but I guess people who choose this path will always be criticized, as long as this world stands.</p>
<p>I am a college student at Liberty University. I want to start off by saying I think it is a wonderful school. Yes, it is right wing and conservative and it does present creation science as an alternative to evolution. It is a Christian school and is founded on Biblical principles. Liberty does not try to hide these view points. Everyone who attends is aware of them however that does not mean that each student agrees wholeheartedly with everything that Liberty teaches. I think that every person religious or not, creationist or not, should be respected because they have value as people and I find it sad that Liberty students have been bashed on this forum. It is prejudicial to judge someone based on the color of their skin their gender their religion or political offiliation or the college they attend. People are individuals with value and worth and should be respected as indivuals with their own unique thoughts, views, and opinions.</p>
<p>That being said I do understand some people’s concerns about the university. I have a hard time sometimes with the amount of Christianeze I hear from students on campus sometimes. Whenever people of the same religious paradigm live in a semi closed environment some connections to life in the overwhelmingly diverse world of beliefs and points of views can be lost. However, I must say that it is at Liberty that I was encouraged by professors to get out into the world, to interact with people from all walks of life and beliefs and to question my faith and examine it. Howevever, I must make my own personal decision to do that and not all students do. As one of my professors said in a class it is important for an individual to analyze and question their faith and decide for themselves if it is logical, if it makes rational sense and is truly reasonable to believe, because if it does not then it is not faith at all but hope. I have never been challenged so immensely by any other Christian or pastor I have ever met. I greatly respect Liberty University because of this.</p>
<p>While Liberty University may accept students with lower SAT/ACT scores that does not mean that they have lower academic standards. I got a 1280 on the SAT and transferred in from a different college to LIberty and I must say that Liberty classes can be tough. They are much harder than the other school I attended and I confess it was quite an awakening for me. While Liberty gives students with lower SAT scores a chance, they truly have to earn the right to stay in school and must meet the damands of sometimes very difficult classes.</p>
<p>Poster above me, if you have only gone to two schools, how could you know how hard Liberty is compared to schools as a whole?</p>
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<p>Miruke, I have great respect for the viewpoint of that professor, and I would wholeheartedly endorse it. I doubt however that it would represent the official view of Liberty’s administration. If that professor’s research provided support for a doctrinal view that ran contrary to Liberty’s, could s/he publish with no concern about institutional backlash? I’m not in the position to say, but I would think that s/he would always have to worry about ideas that might lead to trouble.</p>
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<p>I don’t think that anyone would begrudge individuals holding and espousing their own differing religious viewpoints. But when anyone begins with a hypothesis that isn’t null - whether the hypothesis is colored by religion, politics, personal gain, etc. - and rejects possible evidence on the grounds that it conflicts with their pre-determined tenets, they’re practicing indoctrination, not higher education. Those who are more familiar with the details of intellectual life at Liberty can say whether it fits this definition or not, but it’s many people’s assumptions that the institution is not open to non-doctrinal ideas that leads them to dismiss Liberty and similar colleges.</p>
<p>Oh dear, I visited Liberty College as a Junior, actually spent a weekend there. Went with my boyfriends baptist youth group - NOT because I was interested going there. Just wanted to spend time with my boyfriend. This was in 1992 so things may have changed but it seemed quite intolerant and very strict. I had the “pleasure” of going to Jerry Falwell’s Sunday service and I remember feeling quite distressed. Included in his sermon were silly remarks on how it is ok for women to wear makeup because sometimes they really need it - it was a sermon on modesty.</p>
<p>I would never want my children to attend that school but I suppose some love it. And I do not think it is viewed as totally credible by everyone which, putting aside religious doctrine, would make me wary of sending anyone there.</p>
<p>Any college that teaches creation “science” isn’t worthy of its accreditation. Creationism is pseudoscience and has no place in a classroom, especially not one that touts its academic “rigor.” Even conservative evangelical Christians would do better to avoid Liberty in favor of a college that doesn’t put religious dogma over scientific truth.</p>
<p>If you wanna go for religion, go to almost ANY OTHER PRIVATE SCHOOL IN THE COUNTRY. Most have religious affiliations, weekly chapel services and all that good jazz. You can stay loyal to your faith ANYWHERE, if that’s what you want. If I had ANY other option, I’d go anywhere else besides Liberty.</p>
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<p>LU is one of many sectarian schools founded on somebody’s interpretation of Biblical principles. </p>
<p>If you want a religious (or conservative) atmosphere as well as a good education, in my opinion there are better choices. Examples: Notre Dame (if you have the stats), Brigham Young University, Thomas Aquinas College, Goshen College, and Grove City College. </p>
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<p>People don’t choose their gender or skin color. Religion, political affiliation, and certainly the college you attend all involve personal choices. These choices reflect the quality of your judgement and your attitudes toward other people. So you can expect others, at least in certain contexts, to judge you for these choices. Ideally, they still will treat you at least as politely as you treat them, regardless of your mutual philosophical differences. However, you should be aware that equating political or religious affiliation with skin color (as some conservatives are disingenuously wont to do) will strike many people as offensive.</p>