<p>Guess you don’t go to the Bull Branch.</p>
<p>What does Sarah Palin have to do with Liberty University???</p>
<p>I am quite sure she isn’t Baptist.</p>
<p>If anyone cares to read a visit report from a gentleman who’s daughter will be attending there next year, he posted a visit report on this homeschooling board:</p>
<p>[College</a> Visit - Liberty University in Lynchburg, VA - The Well-Trained Mind Forums (aka Hive Mind)](<a href=“http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173436]College”>http://www.welltrainedmind.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173436)</p>
<p>It seems to be a fair visit report - and seems to give decent info for those looking into the program. His daughter is a NMS.</p>
<p>I should add that I don’t know him (or his daughter) at all - aside from postings on the board. I just frequent that board too as we homeschool our own boys and it’s a great board (not 100% Christian) for homeschooling to college info. Kids from parents who post there go anywhere from local state schools to Stanford.</p>
<p>Regarding the science side of this conversation, the point isn’t that its impossible to reconcile science and religion. That would be the sort of discussion we would have about science teachers at a school like Notre Dame, where the professors may try to answer questions of life in a way that allows both for science and their religion to be reconciled.</p>
<p>The problem at Liberty is that nobody (in charge) is interested in the reconciliation between the two sides. People who adhere to the young earth theory generally must believe in religious teaching at the expense of science, not in reconciliation with.</p>
<p>The heart of the issue isn’t how well or poorly Liberty teaches certain subjects. The question is whether students in a setting are free to pursue truth, as they perceive it, wherever it may lead them (short of violating the rights of others). If the answer, as at Liberty, is “no,” then it isn’t higher education (the name “Liberty” is a bit ironic in that regard). It may constitute religious training - I’ll have to let others decide what they think of the religious training that Liberty offers - but if I’m looking to hire a college graduate who has learned how to critically evaluate opinions from a variety of sources, then I’m not looking for someone with a Liberty degree.</p>
<p>I would suggest that LU students are probably exposed to more viewpoints than at a typical secular college which rarely even covers some of the things that LU addresses. No graduate has to affirm that they believe anything that LU may teach. They remain free to decide for themselves. What is required is exposure to some actually controversial ideas.</p>
<p>I’m all for being exposed to different viewpoints, but assuming the science faculty at liberty follows the school’s code of conduct, then the students there are being blatantly lied to.</p>
<p>There’s a difference between getting a different opinion on a subject and being told that 2+2=5.</p>
<p>I think this article explains the approach at LU. I’m pretty some some buy it and others don’t.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www2.newsadvance.com/lna/news/local/article/liberty_university_refuting_evolution/13475/[/url]”>http://www2.newsadvance.com/lna/news/local/article/liberty_university_refuting_evolution/13475/</a></p>
<p><a href=“US creationists unswayed by evolution exhibition”>US creationists unswayed by evolution exhibition;
<p>Do you believe that evolution is real, Barron?</p>
<p>Short answer, yes. Obviously you confuse my own opinions and explaining the position and beliefs of others that may be misunderstood or not well known here…</p>
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<p>This is pretty obviously false. There was a big controversy when Liberty refused to support the College Democrats because they supposedly “went against everything Liberty stood for.” It’s not just an overly religious school, it’s a Conservative tank–they listed “socialism” as an offense against the University.</p>
<p>Let’s be real. You’re going to be exposed to a lot more viewpoints at a school that allows opposing viewpoints than a purely conservative ones. Do you think there will be many Muslim students on campus compared to your average school? Homosexuals? Atheists?</p>
<p>They also have active discussions on Islam, gay rights, etc. You might not agree with their conclusions but it gets discussed. They did not list socialism as an offense against the university. They philosophically reject socialism and advocate free enterprise. Being socialist is not listed as any offense under the code of conduct.</p>
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<p>Just guessing, maybe it’s where her Presidential Library is going after her “triumphant” presidential term ends in 2016? </p>
<p>Yeah, just one term since the USA will have ceased to exist at that point ;)</p>
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From what I saw on barrons’ link, LU competes in CX (AKA Policy) debate, not Parli (neither APDA nor Worlds). Both are very legitimate college formats.</p>
<p>How can a school that bans a Democratic club be more openminded than–like–anywhere? That seems so spiteful and immature. Admittedly, many colleges are annoyingly lefty, but even then, there are gadflies and contrarians who spice up life. But banning the Democratic club is pretty disrespectful to half of the citizens of our nation. Even if many disagree with that point of view, wouldn’t they be well served to understand it and know actual people who believe it?</p>
<p>They did not “ban” the democratic club. They revoked the official approval which means no money from LU or use of some campus things like mass email system. They can and do still have an active club on the campus.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.liberty.edu/libertyjournal/index.cfm?PID=15758&artid=734[/url]”>http://www.liberty.edu/libertyjournal/index.cfm?PID=15758&artid=734</a></p>
<p>Do they treat the Democratic and Republican clubs equally?</p>
<p>They do now, after public outcries, and refuse to sponsor any political clubs.</p>
<p>But it took a couple years in which the Conservative clubs received funding and the Dems were treated as a second-class group. The bottom line is that the idea that you’ll find more diverse opinions on a campus that does what it can to stifle opposing views is asinine.</p>
<p>Heh, you go to LU you pretty much know what to expect. It’s a conservative school teaching from a conservative viewpoint. If that’s not your cup of tea don’t go there Nobody forces you. There are around 3000 4 year colleges for all types. This one is for more religious conservatives. That’s what private schools are for–different choices for different folks. I don’t stay in B&Bs because I don’t enjoy no room service and having to chit-chat with anyone. Some love that. Different strokes.</p>
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