Is Madison Just As Good As The Big 5?

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<p>At that point it might be best just to go private if OOS considering that Michigan’s tuition is $47,000 per year.</p>

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Wow, that is $10K+ more than Harvard!!!</p>

<p>First of all Ross is better than most private b schools and secondly, OOS tuition is about 45,000/year.</p>

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<p>$45k/year is still a heck of a lot of money for a public school, even a very good one…</p>

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<p>Correction: Michigan’s OOS UG COA is $47,000, not its tuition. The tuition is in the $30K ball-park.</p>

<p>I know the OP is wrong because U-M OOS Rackham graduate students’ tuition is $33K.</p>

<p>Let’s not confuse tuition and COA here, please. Michigan’s OOS COA is similar to Harvard.</p>

<p>Just looked it up, Michigan’s OOS tuition is $35k + $9k room & board</p>

<p>^^^ In other words, not $47,000 as some people claim it to be. </p>

<p>COA, yes. Tuition, no.</p>

<p>Harvard’s estimate of 2009-10 standard student budget (9-mo academic year) = $67,900
[Student</a> Budget](<a href=“http://www.law.harvard.edu/current/sfs/basics/cost/budget.html]Student”>http://www.law.harvard.edu/current/sfs/basics/cost/budget.html)</p>

<p>^^ Goodness, now that is very expensive. But this is the law school. Undergrad figures should be much lower.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/financial_aid/cost.html[/url]”>http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/financial_aid/cost.html&lt;/a&gt; It’s $52,000 COA for undergraduates.</p>

<p>"While it is possible to get into i-banking from Wisconsin, you would be a lot better off going to Michigan. Wisconsin sends almost no graduates into BB i-banks. "</p>

<p>Because UW students have little interest in Wall Street IB. </p>

<p>[Why</a> life is still good for business school students ? in Wisconsin. - By Daniel Gross - Slate Magazine](<a href=“http://www.slate.com/id/2217350/]Why”>Why life is still good for business school students … in Wisconsin.)</p>

<p>Despite the limited interest a decent number of those interested found jobs at Goldman and other major WS firms–so it can be done if you want it. UW had 4 go to Goldman while UM had 5. Not a huge gap considering.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.bus.wisc.edu/career/common/yir/YIR%202007-2008.pdf[/url]”>http://www.bus.wisc.edu/career/common/yir/YIR%202007-2008.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>[University</a> of Michigan Office of Financial Aid: Cost of Attendance](<a href=“http://www.finaid.umich.edu/financial_aid_basics/cost.asp]University”>http://www.finaid.umich.edu/financial_aid_basics/cost.asp)</p>

<p>This is an estimate of the COA, it includes books and personal expenses. Thats where I got the 47K from. If you take the books and other expenses out, you are looking at about 44K. Still VERY expensive for a public school. I think at that point I’d pay the extra 5-6K and go to Harvard or wherever.</p>

<p>tenisghs,
Thanks for checking my mistake. I thought it was high too. I clicked the wrong link and never realized my error. Here is the estimated cost of attendance for Harvard College - $52,000<br>
[Harvard</a> College Admissions § Financial Aid: Cost of Attendance](<a href=“http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/financial_aid/cost.html]Harvard”>http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/financial_aid/cost.html)</p>

<p>^^^
bigp9998, Michigan has a long tradition that rivals even the Ivy League schools. If I was a Californian or New England student looking for the best overall undergraduate education outside my state, Michigan would be one of the schools. Up to 40% of non-Michigan high school students choose to matriculate to Michigan for undergraduate study.</p>

<p>COA of some of the more expensive publics for out-of-state:</p>

<p>UCB: $50,582
[Facts</a> at a glance - UC Berkeley](<a href=“By the numbers - University of California, Berkeley”>By the numbers - University of California, Berkeley)</p>

<p>UC-San Diego: $47,599
[Budgets</a> for Undergraduates 2009-2010](<a href=“http://www.ucsd.edu/current-students/finances/financial-aid/budgeting/undergraduates-20092010.html]Budgets”>http://www.ucsd.edu/current-students/finances/financial-aid/budgeting/undergraduates-20092010.html)</p>

<p>Michigan: $46,999
[University</a> of Michigan Office of Financial Aid: Cost of Attendance](<a href=“http://www.finaid.umich.edu/financial_aid_basics/cost.asp]University”>http://www.finaid.umich.edu/financial_aid_basics/cost.asp)</p>

<p>UIUC(science/business/engineering): $44,152
[University</a> of Illinois Financial Aid: Undergraduate Non-Resident 2009-2010 Cost](<a href=“http://www.osfa.uiuc.edu/cost/undergrad/nonres_0910.html]University”>http://www.osfa.uiuc.edu/cost/undergrad/nonres_0910.html)</p>

<p>UVa: $43,140 + travel
[U.Va</a>. Financial Aid - Estimated Cost of Attendance](<a href=“http://www.virginia.edu/financialaid/estimated.php#Undergrads]U.Va”>http://www.virginia.edu/financialaid/estimated.php#Undergrads)</p>

<p>Comparing to typical privates:</p>

<p>Cornell: $52,414
[Costs[/url</a>]</p>

<p>Harvard: $52,000
[url=<a href=“http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/financial_aid/cost.html]Harvard”>http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/financial_aid/cost.html]Harvard</a> College Admissions § Financial Aid: Cost of Attendance](<a href=“http://www.finaid.cornell.edu/costs/]Costs[/url”>http://www.finaid.cornell.edu/costs/)</p>

<p>Wisconsin is an excellent school and compares very favorably with the other publics you mentioned.</p>

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That is ridiculous. Alexandre would probably say what I just did. We’ve all seen Alexandre telling people that Michigan is not worth an extra $xx,xxx over their other choice.</p>

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<p>Michigan is an amazing school, but I don’t think most people would say that it rivals the Ivy League. (for undergrad, at least)</p>

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I’m an engineer. Convince me I’d get a better engineering education and career opportunity at an Ivy.</p>

<p>Go to Madison. Seriously. Why pay double for a school that is pretty much equal?</p>

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<p>How about Cornell?</p>

<p>Michigan ranks higher than Cornell in all categories in engineering. It has a much longer history as an engineering powerhouse, with an industry network few schools can match.</p>

<p>I agree Cornell is a peer in engineering (I also consider Wisconsin to be a peer in certain engineering fields). But there are eight schools in the Ivy League, what about the others?</p>