<p>I plan on going to NYC to work after I graduate. I worry that I won't be able to compete for jobs/internships. Where would a new yorker or east coaster rank Northwestern in terms of other colleges like Cornell, CMU, etc...</p>
<p>Absolutely it is well known. Northwestern has a great rep, up there with Cornell. I live in NJ, my neighbor is a Northwestern grad and works in Manhattan.</p>
<p>I know 5-6 students who had dual admissions to NU and Cornell. Most in CA seem to chose NU these days though location is certainly part of the reason.</p>
<p>NU is very well known in the east. Its grads do just fine with interviews and jobs from major east coast employers. Qualitatively, its academics are on a tier with Penn, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth and JHU.</p>
<p>I live in DC now and so far, everyone that I met and asked knows it’s a very good school. NONE mistook it as Northeastern. ;)</p>
<p>I think it’s certainly well known, but certainly the East coast schools are more highly represented locally. And you’ll have to investigate whether the NY-based firms tend to slot people from there for internships more often in the Chicago branch office. That’s what my firm did, from what I recall.</p>
<p>I also noticed that based on the cross-admits between Cornell, JHU, WashU, and NU, NU wins almost all the time. This is true for the East Coast and Midwest schools I attended. I would say that’s a strong pull if you could get kids to relocate from the East to forgo their nearby options while the Midwest kids stay.</p>
<p>"I also noticed that based on the cross-admits between Cornell, JHU, WashU, and NU, NU wins almost all the time. "
Can’t speak to schools you happened to attend, however as to a broader group, Cornell came out higher than all those schools in the Revealed Preference study.</p>
<p>That revealed preferences study was so many years ago. Maybe 5-10 years? So much has changed. I can’t claim generalize to all schools based on my sampling, but it was definitely interesting when Cornell used to be preferred and then all of a sudden a significant shift happened.</p>
<p>^Indeed it was published like 6 or 7 years ago and the data were probably 10 years old and things can change a lot (look at WashU) in a decade. I don’t know anything about cross-admits. But I do notice Cornell and NU used to have similar SAT/ACT scores but these days, NU’s stats are higher.</p>
<p>Link to Northwestern engineering and Weinberg stats?
Maybe they are higher than Cornell CAS & COE, I’ve no idea.
But Cornell’s data by college for last year is not out yet, only the aggregate.
Aggregate for both schools is useless, right, not many weinberg applicants also applying to hotel school, etc.</p>
<p>Here is Cornell admit % by college for last year:
<a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000003.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000003.pdf</a></p>
<p>I think we are talking about overall. Engineering + Arts & Sciences + Communications + Education + Journalism. Aggregate data absolutely is relevant if we are talking about the strength of the student body as a whole.</p>
<p>Actually you were not talking about overall. You were discussing cross-admits.</p>
<p>It’s possible tons of Northwestern applicants are also applying to the Cornell Hotel School. And so on, with respect to all the different specialty colleges at both universities. </p>
<p>However it is quite obvious that the preponderance of cross-admits are applying to either Arts & Sciences and engineering at both schools, because those are the only colleges at each that have much in common with each other.</p>
<p>Regarding overall, I would have guessed Northwestern has been higher for many, many years. Only about half of Cornell’s undergrads are studying in its Arts & Sciences & Engineering colleges. Its specialty colleges are among the best of their respective types, but give greater weight to special subject affinity & in some cases do not have quite the same applicant pool interested in their areas. This has been true forever there, it is a bifurcated place. If anything the differences seem to be reduced in recent years.</p>
<p>If it bothers you that some people will be walking around there, attending a different college, who went though a different selection process & criteria; may be a personality star, or an incredibly talented designer, but not an academic star, e.g- do not attend Cornell, it is a heterogeneous place. But students achieve based on their own capabilities. An Arts & sciences physics major does not get in to a worse grad school because there are also students on the same campus who are studying in other colleges and have different interests and capabilities. An engineering college grad does not get a worse job because there are also hotel school students on the campus someplace.
An architecture grad’s future placement is not dictated by proximity to ILR students in a different college there. Etc.</p>
<p>This has always been true.</p>
<p>In our area of CA NU is far more popular than Cornell. Some of it is related to location and size but the general feeling is that NU is a better overall school. That said the schools are peers and very comparable.</p>
<p>monydad,</p>
<p>NU no longer has the stats by schools available on its website.<br>
About 69% of the student body belong to WCAS or Engineering. Average SAT for class of 2014 is 1447.</p>
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But cross-admits consider the strength of the overall student body when deciding where to go so in that sense, general stats are relevant. I think it’s great that Cornell offers such diverse offerings and that students of various background can mingle with each other. However, you could say the same for Northwestern. We have journalism, communications, and education besides the arts & sciences and engineering. Are you implying that Cornell’s other schools have lower standards? Like for ILR, Hotel, Human Ecology? I’m not sure if this is true for Northwestern as well, but even if so, it has still managed to attract students with a range of interests while maintaining high stats. Just because you’re interested in a field other than arts & sciences/engineering (e.g. hotel or human ecology in Cornell’s case) shouldn’t mean you’re dumber.</p>
<p>it’s because those other three schools are part of the SUNY (State University of NY) system, which gives a preference to NY students.</p>
<p>Wait, are the standards for those state schools at Cornell really that much lower though? Maybe as more people realized this (thanks I’m sure to College Confidential’s growing popularity), Cornell lost some of its prestige accordingly. I did notice when I go on the Cornell boards that there’s a certain smugness arts & sciences students at Cornell have towards their state school peers, which is unfortunate.</p>
<p>yea i feel like that’s the good part about northwestern. NOT one undergrad school here feels superior to another. we’re all on the same level.</p>
<p>NU is not just popular in the East Coast, but it is also very well-respected in the East Coast, and in many countries around the world.</p>