<p>Wait what they are blowing up Yankee stadium? That's news to me. I should pay more attention to the city... Then again I'm not a Yankee fan. (Nor am I Boston fan)</p>
<p>Hmm, the best anyone here did was MIT. We had a kid go to the Naval acadamy, but he droped out in a week (figures).</p>
<p>there going to build a new one right next to it, but it wont be the house that ruth built (im a white sox fan, and it still makes me mad)</p>
<p>I think that there are obviously exceptions to every rule, but I (and I think most people) have always noticed this trend: Harvard=serious, scholarly, Yale=intellectual, artsy, creative, and Princeton=social, preppy. Obviously these are generalizations, but this whole thread is basically about the different generalizations, so there you go...</p>
<p>I went to harvard for the summer so def. got a good feel for the place. It is a damn good school but really bad for undergrad in terms of its programs and someone in the faculty whom i knew said that a lot of profs don't really care about their undergrads. Princeton i know is famous for its undergrad experience but that's about it. Yale, i have no idea. Myself, i got into Wharton :) I probably would've stood a good chance at harvard but I personally think that undergrad experience there beats the harvard/princeton/yale experience just because it's a pre-professional program (i intend to get a second degree from the college to get the liberal arts thing firmly under my belt too but the professional Wharton thing is really important to me.) The $140 mil building doesn't hurt either. So yeah, i think it's all a matter of personal preference once you're in the top 10. Just because Harvard and Princeton are ranked the most selective doesn't mean someone from dartmouth or brown or penn wishes they could be there just because each school has it's individual feel. Just my two cents.</p>
<p>Asking what type of person goes to these schools is like asking who watches CBS, NBC, and ABC. Each network skews somewhat in its viewership, but their audiences have a great deal of overlap. For example, CBS has a higher proportion of older, rural viewers, but that means it might have 45% of that market instead of 33%. There are still a lot of older, rural viewers watching the other networks. If you put a 100 representative viewers of each network in three separate rooms, the people in the room would not look that much different. But the fact that one room might have 40% of people over 60 and 25% under 25 and another room might have the reverse would give the rooms slightly different vibes. Same with HYP. Its not like if you could measure such qualities that all the artsy or intellectual or social or competitive kids go to one school. Its more like they might split 35%, 30%, 25% among the campuses. Most students might not even experience the difference that much, unless they happen to be really into arts or competition or being intellectual or social where they might notice that they are on the 35% versus 25% campus. As to which is which, I leave for others to continue to debate. The campuses are not like who is watching the Cartoon Network versus who is watching Playboy, where the demographics would be really different. If you could interview an admitted student to HYP, but could ask them nothing about the school that they will attend and had to guess where they were going, you would probably be more often wrong than right. One other thing: remember it is not only students selecting schools, but schools selecting students. There are a fair number of students who would be on a different campus except for the fact that one school and not the others admitted them</p>
<p>We are talking about perception of the schools which is definitely something that each of us has a valid opinion on. Each of us can speak of the perception of the Ivy schools personally and in terms of what our school and town thinks about them. and GO NBC best news, best tv shows, best everything!</p>
<p>I think anyone who says that you can't get a great undergrad experience at any HYP school is misinformed or a victim of selective recall. Everyone I know from Harvard and Princeton has given glowing reviews of courses, professors, etc. (I don't know anyone from Yale.) They are all unbelievably bright and witty and none of them fit into the negative stereotypes I always hear from rival schools' students on this board. I'm sure such people exist in large quantities but I haven't met any.</p>
<p>HARVARD HAS SPENT A FORTUNE ON NAME BRAND WORLD WIDE. and it applies to the grad school lets face it. if Princeton appeals to preppy socialites then how do you account for the missing element... the fact that Princeton offers the best undergrad education. I am really confused by all of this. Wish there was a real honest answer in terms of typing these schools. What is the feeling kids get when they make that choice. I just find it interesting. The smartest most driven kids choose an IVY.. WHy Which one?</p>
<p>Actually if a guys brilliant and wants to do engineering, but wants the ivy tag...
he does goes to Cornell</p>
<p>The best way to get the information you all are looking for is probably this. Find someone you know or a friend or family member knows who is at these schools. Ask them what they think of it. Then ask them to describe themselves. Then triangulate. Then get more data if you can.</p>
<p>D came home for Christmas, with a friend also from our area. They sat in our living room telling us they went to the best college in the country because Princeton has regular kids there, who are happy. That's just their opinion. Now, if you met these two girls, you could estimate how much like you they are, and then you would understand their definition of "normal" and "happy".</p>
<p>sensible idea alumother but please tell arjun Princeton engineering is pretty solid.</p>
<p>Princeton engineering is excellent, and there's the extra plus of the fact that all your non-engineering classes are at Princeton. If you want to do an engineering major, but eventually B-School and a management track, Princeton would be better. Actually Cornell has a fabulous grad school for Comp Sci. I personally would recommend Princeton for undergrad, then if you take the technical track as an engineer do Cornell for grad school, if you take the management track, do B-School.</p>
<p>I do not yet understand this whole "best undergrad education" stuff. I go to Penn and the stuff I learn is no different than the stuff my friends at Princeton learn. What makes their undergrad experience superior? I looked at a few Princeton tests and thought they were really watered down. Perhaps my friends are not utilizing resources fully -- I don't know, but it's truly a matter of preference when it comes to schools of this caliber, since a lot of things education-wise, in my opinion, are the same. Most people would probably want Harvard due to its name (the layman knows of Harvard but probably not Princeton).</p>
<p>Ok better question which schools get you the best jobs? Harvard maybe more because of name? Just wondering. What is your experience alumother?</p>
<p>somebody mentioned that Harvard gets the same # of applications that Cornell does ... last year, Cornell received 5,000 more applications than Harvard (if harvard got 20,000 as indicated)</p>
<p>Best jobs? Yes, I have hired a lot of people. The truth is it really depends. Anyone in the investment banking and consulting and law worlds (where education prestige really matters) will be impressed enough by HYPSM. Also the top LACs. And will be only slightly less impressed by the other Ivies, and by Caltech (actually maybe more so because who knows what those guys do:). And if you are high in your class at Cal or Michigan or Wisconsin etc. that will also be impressive. You will be able to get an entry level job in these places, and then it's up to you.</p>
<p>For engineering, actually, Harvard, Stanford etc. can be a disincentive for starting jobs in some places. Nobody wants to hire someone who is 21 years old and thinks they are God's gift to the universe - so better RPI or Georgia Tech and then a good grad school unless you can really remember that you are just a kid and stay humble as possible throughout the interview process.</p>
<p>For business, if the hiring manager went to Penn you are golden. If the hiring manager went to Tenessee State, well, there you go. For business, you have to show your personal characteristics, and then your capability to contribute in an entry level position. If you did something with numbers in college, you'll be doing spreadsheets. If you did something with words, you will be researching. Or, no matter what you did, if you have drive and a spark you can be in sales. Some people will want you to be from an Ivy, others will not. You can't predict.</p>
<p>These are the only jobs I know much about. But DO NOT choose amongst top universities because of the jobs you will get unless you already know you want to be something special in a small department that only your chosen U offers. Otherwise, your success in life is only indicated by your acceptance to these places, not determined by it. It will be up to you.</p>
<p>Sorry to sound so old, but you try living for 49 years. :). It creeps up on you. The best thing you can do at this point is go to the most challenging school you can get into, that at the same time has the best fit in terms of the environment and academics and other programs offered so that you aren't miserable and can develop on all fronts.</p>
<p>alumother my cousin got into ORFinancial Engineering at Pton do you know if this program is good? Everyone told my cousin go to MIT or Cornell instead. What do you think. By the way I am going to lowly Vanderbilt no way I could get into an IVY but I am really happy going there!</p>