<p>Regarding 5boys post above. There are not many of us left that are posting about NYU with students that are currently in Tisch (or posts by students themselves that are actually in Tisch). I came back to this forum mainly for that purpose as otherwise I have little to add that can’t be replicated and bested by others here that are way smarter than I am. The post above about Tisch is one that works when understood as a personal opinion but fails as a general word on the program because the actual data simply does not support the claim in a global sense.</p>
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<p>5boys your wording suggests a mass exodus that simply is not happening. There is no question that there are students at Tisch that get there and after some period of time, decide that a BFA is not for them. That actually happened to one of my daughter’s best friends in the program her second semester freshman year and I know of another that possibly may also come to that same conclusion after this semester since she is also wrestling with it. Both of these (girls) would have wrestled with it regardless of the school since it was more a case of “do I want to major in theatre?” than it was, “do I want to to study theatre at Tisch?” Both of these girls will stay at NYU regardless of what they conclude because they are happy there and will be allowed to transfer into other programs if that is what they decide. </p>
<p>In any case, no way is that a common thing in the Tisch BFA program. Most students are sticking with it and I doubt the swap out rate there is necessarily any higher than it would be anywhere else. I can’t prove that and nor can you prove otherwise. All I can say is that at Tisch, it’s not common so I felt your post was somewhat misleading. I’m also not sure what you mean by “impersonal place”. There are about 16 students in every studio class. That’s pretty personal and of a similar size and scale that you’d find in most BFA programs. But yes the chances of running into your professors every week at the one and only coffee shop in town and discussing the week’s lesson is certainly less likely in a place like New York City. That I’d agree with. But impersonal and all that comes with that is a tricky word to use when describing a program and honestly, you can’t know the level of personal attention you would get unless you were there. If you’re suggesting that the instructors can’t know you and will not work with you as an individual artist, well that’s simply not the case. </p>
<p>Absolutely Tisch is not for everyone no more nor less than any school. That’s the beauty of choice. (Insert hot guy analogy). :)</p>
<p>That’s funny! I guess my long post above yours was my way of saying that there are some schools that people just love and don’t need to be cured of. Sounds like bisouu’s daughter may be as incurable as mine was with respect to NYU and folks, that’s OK. Not only OK but a good thing especially when the admissions planets align and it works out. And I’d say the same thing (insert any other school) when that works out accordingly for any student at any school.</p>
<p>Not for nothing but my son realized a BFA was not for him because of the info I’ve shared with him from CC. If not for CC I can tell you 100% that my son would have left his BFA program after a year and I’m talking about any BFA program. </p>
<p>5boys maybe your son should look into Gallatin at NYU since you said he may or may not still be interested. It’s the school of individualized study.</p>
<p>I think it would be just short of insanity to matriculate at a school you’d never visited. If you had a full scholarship and couldn’t afford a visit, maybe it would be worth the gamble…but I wouldn’t think so. If your D could marry Aaron Tveit tomorrow, would she? And would you be thrilled?</p>
<p>Yes and yes…no j/k…she may want to move across the country and begin a relationship with him and see where it leads. </p>
<p>we will be visiting NYU for sure and most of the other schools on the East coast in March but I was just curious if any of your children were in love with a school enough to accept an acceptance without visiting. Didn’t realize this would cause such a big discussion. We can divorce a school can’t we if things just don’t work out, or is she obligated to stay in the relationship for all 4 years? (Not a serious question)</p>
<p>Bisouu, my daughter felt like your daughter, it was NYU or bust. And she loves it!
Her friends, NYC, her studio classes, her academic classes, all of it.
She has never had a class- studio or academic larger than 18 people. Her writing the essay teacher met with the kids over the weekend to go over their writing with them.
Her acting teachers know her intimately well and there are usually 12-18 per class.</p>
<p>NYU is not for everyone, I agree with the others. But neither are any of these schools. My friends daughter got into one of those 3 “conservatories” everyone raves about on cc. She made it Christmas, and never went back. Absolutely hated the place, the people, everything.
And she was one of 12 kids there.</p>
<p>Thank you MOMMY5! I know that this thread has taken a bit of a detour and I didn’t expect this. I know my D very well and would be very shocked if NYU did not meet all of her expectations. My original reason for asking was more out of curiosity. I wondered if other families had children that had a “dream” school that they would be willing to go to without visiting. We will visit…just was hoping there were other kids like my D who had a great passion for one particular school.</p>
<p>Amen to Marblehead, GlassH and Photomum.
Would you really spend $240,000 on something site unseen?
No brochure, no telephone call, no in person luncheon, no drive by, would ever provide the intangible information that both of my girls experienced by visiting schools. For my theatre kid some of those first time visits were during auditions or after acceptances. Many of their gut reactions were completely contradictory to my opinion or expectation and many were different from the impressions they had from brochures and personal discussions with current students in advance of their visits. But good luck to your D.</p>
<p>I guess I don’t see it as an all or nothing endeavor. $240,000 would not be spent if she was unhappy. No one pays that kind of money upfront correct? I left a prestigious college after one semester not because of anything wrong with the university, but I could not deal with the freezing weather. No visit would have ever prepared me for that (unless I had visited in the dead of winter). I guess I have phrased things all wrong…I should have entitled my post what is your child’s dream school. That is what I was really trying to get at. My apologies…</p>
<p>visiting in the worst weather is actually an interesting issue , really figuring out if you can live in the weather, real cold, real hot, middle of the city for whatever that entails or secluded in rural or suburban area. All the money and prestige in the world can’t compensate for sheer unhappiness as you experienced at your first college Bisouu.</p>
<p>You know, the weather the day of the visit is a HUGE factor in why kids pick a college?
They could see the same school on a sunny gorgeous day, with kids out on the quad playing frisbee, and they will love the school. Take the same school on a rainy, gloomy, cold day and you will get a totally different reaction.
My daughter has a friend that says the only reason he went to the school he went to is because of how gorgeous the weather was the day he visited! True story!</p>
<p>Visits are good. But really most people I know who end up leaving programs are not leaving because of anything they would have noticed on a visit anyway. NYU was my dream school since 8th grade but I ended up not applying because of money. I have visited though and it was as exactly expected. And very cold.</p>
<p>CCM is this school for my S. Now that he is in the middle of applying, he’s realized he wants to visit every school he is applying to. We are leveraging the audition date and making all of those overnights so that he can spend time at each school. He attended CCM’s summer program, I encouraged this thinking he NEEDS to spend time in a place before he commits to all that $$ and all that time should he be accepted. The two weeks there only solidified his feelings of the school.</p>
<p>My D didn’t even apply to any schools she hadn’t visited, let alone attend one! ;)</p>
<p>I agree that NYU is a must visit. It is not an easy place to attend college and will not be the right place for all kids, even those who think that they love the city. I disagree that it’s impersonal, though. My D never found that, at all. She also was never in a studio class that had more than 16 kids in it so I’m not sure why anyone worries about the size issue.</p>
<p>I would never recommend for ANY student to attend a college that they haven’t visited. I think it’s a mistake.</p>
<p>Dream School - NYU - We will visit but I am 100-percent sure she will love it. However, if accepted that does not mean she will attend. 240,000 OMG! Other dream schools CMU, Northwestern, Boston University, and maybe Cal Arts - We have lots of big expensive dreaming.</p>
<p>Yes 240,000, and in the words of Halfoklum you need to reevaluate who your hottie is coz that list above, actingmt, some of those schools are schools that notoriously give not much or anything for merit aid. Although I shouldn’t assume who may have a nest egg saved for this purpose or a very robust 529 account.</p>
<p>@#34 - A very good point. My D1 was admitted to one of her dream schools and ended up very unhappy for reasons that would never have occurred to her or us to even think about prior to attending there, including but not limited to: no healthy food available late at night (small town, night owl, picky eater), language dept. that was more focused on study of classical literature than modern fluency, and many faculty that lived an hour away in the big city instead of aforesaid small town. </p>
<p>None of which is to say visiting in advance isn’t important - I think it is, just wanted to agree that it’s no guarantee of future satisfaction. </p>
<p>Bisouu, you are doing a great job - keep up the good work!</p>
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