<p>I know some schools like NYU I think and Sophie Davis have a 6-8 year medical program where you go through college and medical school (without the stress of being newly admitted to a medical school) at once. Does Columbia have any guaranteed programs like this? Thanks.</p>
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<p>I don't think so.... I only know there is one for law school called the AILE program. :/</p>
<p>Convolvolus - no. Columbia students would be qualified if they did well in undergrad to get into most medical schools, it would be restrictive to lock them in, plus these programs are notorious for attracting pre-med baiters who actually do not stand a good chance at admission. Consider that Sophie Davis only offers admission to a slim number of students, but anyone and everyone who wants medicine applies. It makes a school look more competitive than it really is. Essentially it is an illusion that makes you forget that there is a reason the United States puts a buffer between high school and med school - honestly, you have a lot of lessons you ought to learn in college first. (No disrespect Brown, most Ivies utilize some kind of ploy to maintain and attract Pre-Med students, by far the largest cohort who apply every year.)</p>
<p>I know most of the med-education programs and from research I want to caution you in considering such a program. To quote a med school dean (and a family friend who convinced me not to apply to them) at one of these universities "they train bad doctors who have not had to work hard to pass the test of medical school, and their only purpose is to increase applications for the home college." Which is most likely why no Ivies save Brown have such a program (they are not for want for applicants) and also why at Brown it is their most competitive program, highest yielding program, and shores up their admissions stats. </p>
<p>So I beseech you - if med school is a dream of yours wait until you finish college and allow yourself to be changed and challenged by the college that is the best fit. With a bit experience here, I can say with certainty that you would be doing yourself a disservice to consider one of these programs (and other medical school educators I know would agree). Further, don't limit yourself to biology/chemistry as the only way to get to med school. Make sure the schools you like have decent departments here, but plan and consider what academic disciplines interest you most and not what career field you want as a raison d'etre.</p>
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<p>NYU doesn't have an accelerated program</p>
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<p>being a newly admitted medical student is absolutely not what is stressful...the stressful and uncertain part is getting in to med school </p>
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<p>absolutely not. the only thing remotely similar to this at columbia is the early assurance program where you can apply to med school sophomore year and be assured a spot if you maintain certain credentials....columbia med school however does not participate in this program....the only two med schools listed on the website are Mt. Sinai and SUNY Upstate but google tells me there might be one with Drexel too. </p>
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Columbia students would be qualified if they did well in undergrad to get into most medical schools
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<p>i STRONGLY disagree with this statement. getting into med school is TOUGH and going to columbia for undergrad guarantees nothing. granted columbia has a good track record of getting graduates into medical school (as do most other schools of its caliber) but it is in no way simple to get in just because you attended columbia. i know a few columbia alums who applied and weren't able to get into med school but at the same time they are grossly outnumbered by those who successfully applied....myself included. </p>
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<p>Sophie davis is actually one of the better ones as far as admissions statistics go....about a third get interviewed and a third of those get accepted...those are pretty good odds if we were talking about regular med school admissions</p>
<p>...that being said....i very much agree with this: </p>
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<p>it is very rare that some 17 year old out of high school is certain that they want to become a doctor.....you only need to look as far as the exodus out of premed after freshman year that occurs at every single college. i didn't apply to any accelerated programs out of high school and though my road to med school has been long and difficult if i were given the choice to go back and do it all again i would do it the exact same way. i feel that the experiences i've had in college and since graduating were absolutely worth it and will make me a much better physician....i would actually feel sorry for kids who did not get the opportunity to get a true undergraduate experience and have the chance to explore outside of this single-minded track that you would undoubtedly fall into in an accelerated program.</p>
<p>Two of the better known programs are at Brown and RPI/Union. It is very difficult to get admitted into these programs. Why don't you try out college first before deciding on a medical career?</p>
<p>Awesome, awesome post admissionsgeek.</p>