Is this cheating?

<p>Would it be considered cheating if you put formulas that you might need for the Math Ic test into your graphing calculator? I mean, we are allowed to use a graphing calculator, so can't we insert formulas into them?</p>

<p>GASP! Formulas? In one's calculator? J/k, I see no reason as to why you can't them.</p>

<p>Well, I don't for the SAT but for our classes, our teachers warn us to not put anything into our calculators that we are not supposed to.</p>

<p>I think that this would be considered cheating. Call the collegeboard and ask, though. On the actual test, they give you a few formulas.</p>

<p>for the sat II math tests, no. for the SAT reasoning test, Id be more careful. the best thing to do is memorize all of your formulas, ul work through ur problems faster anyways.</p>

<p>BUT having programs of the formula in your graphing calculator is totally different. This saves your time, cuz all u have to do is plug in numbers</p>

<p>and you don't need any complex formulas...</p>

<p>When my proctor read the rules earlier in October, she specifically said that we could not have anything loaded that was not supposed to be, or our scores would be cancelled. It is proper procedure for them to check and see that you also don't have a calculator that you shouldn't have. That's how it is, sorry. If you are not good at reasoning, don't take a math test. They are really difficult and reqiure a lot of memorization. You can't program them into a calculator because much of the test is reasoning--you need to know what to do, as the answers will not just come to you.</p>

<p>It's quite obviously cheating. A formula is essentially you giving yourself notes on how to do a problem.</p>

<p>Now, in some things that's ok - for example, in IB courses you're given a data booklet with some information in it.</p>

<p>However, bringing it in yourself from outside is, I would say, pretty clearly not allowed.</p>

<p>they never required us to clear the memory...but then again I always deleted all the games and programs anyway before the test. (too distracting)</p>

<p>Wait, so before taking the Math Ic test, the proctors come around and checks to see that you don't have any illegal stuff in your graphing calculator?</p>

<p>If it's cheating, why would the Barron's book tell you to add formulas to your graphing calculator?</p>

<p>Care to explain how it's so apparently obviously cheating? You have to know what the formula is and how it works: it doesn't matter if I write the pythagorean theorum on my forehead if I don't know how to use it. Besides, why does the collegeboard allow the ti-89 and ti-92 as acceptable caculators when they contain every formula ever derived? Many prep books say you can use them. Proctors check what calculator you use, not if the content on them is "illegal" or not. I don't know if formulas would be helpful for SAT math or the IC subject test, but probably for the IIC. Of course, everything I said could be wrong, but I have yet to see anything that says formulas are not allowed.</p>

<p>dude *** thats so gay, I deleted my programs (ALLMATH which includes every single formula ever imagined) cuz I didnt wanna cheat.</p>

<p>I could have saved so much time on my math sections and Math IC test.</p>

<p>It sound like cheating to me; if it's not given to you on the test; thwen you can't have anything there to reming you of them.
It would be that same as writing them on a paper and looking at it when no one is looking.</p>

<p>wouldnt it be easier to just memorize them???? Then taking the risk of being caught???But its ur own choice right :)</p>

<p>its not cheating. even if the proctors see your calculator and see you are checking out a program, nothing will happen.</p>

<p>also MATH IC is a joke. You dont need any formulas</p>

<p>there is almost nothing you need to do that for.its not like even like physics....really not many formulars. its harder for you to not memorize them after doing tons of practice questions.</p>

<p>@backfire
Math IIC is a joke too, really =P I was sorta worried the night before I took the test, so I packed a couple programs into my calculator.... Then, during the test, until I got like halfway through, I forgot I even had a calculator 'cause I was just flying through the test. I think I ended up using my calculator for one problem on that test? Maybe two... And those were just for some big multiplications, not to use any formulas.</p>

<p>technically it is cheating, but what i think you are asking for is "will i get caught?"</p>

<p>and i'm guessing no. i've never had a proctor check calculators for any SAT test.</p>

<p>then again, i dont recall there being very many math1c formulas in the first place - what's the point?</p>

<p>The Math IC curriculum is pretty easy. Like 70% of it is SAT I. I don't think you'll need a grapging calc on it. A scientific one should be enough.</p>