Is this considering cheating?

<p>So I had an AP final the other day, and our teacher told us it was going to be a full mock AP that has been released, so needless to say I was nervous. He told us the exam couldn't be found online, but to study, I went on the internet anyways and downloaded like 5 released practice tests (found the links from CC actually) and took them on my own to see how I was doing relative to the real AP. When I took the test, I recognized a good portion of the questions on the MC and Free response, and since I had seen them before I pretty much knew how to do all of them. Needless to say I did pretty well. Thoughts?</p>

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<p>I wouldn’t consider it cheating. You used practice tests to study and there’s nothing wrong with that.</p>

<p>why do you care ?
during my french exam , i had my phone under my desk and i looked at it every 4-5 questions
THAT’S cheating</p>

<p>No, it’s not cheating because you didn’t obtain those tests by any illegal means and your teacher was foolish enough to tell you what the exam was.</p>

<p>No, not cheating…</p>

<p>Sent from my SGH-T959V using CC App</p>

<p>That’s not cheating you were just studying.</p>

<p>@Killzslayz WOW!!! No offense but I HATE people like you! Why don’t you just fail with honor?</p>

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Collegeboard only releases one or two tests for free to the general public. The audit exam is free as well, but that’s technically not available to students directly. The others have to be bought from their store to obtain them legally.</p>

<p>Not that legality even matters when deciding if a student is cheating - looking on your phone certainly isn’t illegal but it is cheating.</p>

<p>well for this class, the collegeboard releases AP like tests to teachers to use as prep or exam material. In this case, one of the tests I found was a pdf posted by a teacher.</p>

<p>Your teachers said the exam couldn’t be found online. This proves that your intent to go online was not driven by the fact that you wanted to know the exact answers to questions on the test, but that you wanted to learn the material, and to accomplish that you went online. It is your intent that matters.</p>

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Not necessarily, although more and more schools are revising their cheating and plagiarism policies to reflect this attitude. Some policies may define this sort of assistance from external resources as cheating, though I strongly doubt that is the case with most schools. Similarly, some schools that at one time would have taken action against students who forgot to put quote marks around quoted material in a paper - attribution present and all - are now considering intent as a factor.</p>

<p>My opinion is that intent does not define cheating (e.g., if some important equations were written on a poster next to which I was sitting, and the teacher didn’t realize it and I didn’t realize it until inadvertently glancing at the poster and seeing an equation before turning away) but should determine any disciplinary actions that may result from it.</p>

<p>I’d say it’s an unfair advantage bordering on cheating. The teacher expects students to use the textbook, notes, etc. that are readily available to study. However, when you’re using resources like illegally procured past AP tests - a resource not everyone readily has access to and certainly a source the teacher wouldn’t expect you to have, i think it would be considered morally questionable if not cheating. Your teacher told you that it was going to be an AP test with the assumption that you wouldn’t have access to it in mind.</p>

<p>Oh boy.</p>

<p>There was this crazy chick in my AP English/Comp class who did a similar thing. The teacher gave us the questions in advance without the answer choices, expecting us to work out the answers by ourselves. Furthermore, the questions that she gave us to study would be tested on our final but would only count as <em>extra credit</em>.</p>

<p>So you know what 75% of the junior class did? They found a leaked copy of the whole MC our teacher gave us with the answers. Not a single **** was given by any of them. Nobody reported the existence of the answers. The class of 2013 will be remembered as the *******s who cheated on their English III semester final.</p>

<p>And then there was this one girl during class who admitted to our teacher who had just given us a talk about the incident. She memorized the questions and the answers just like a lot of students did. You won’t believe what she spouted</p>

<p>1) She didn’t consider the incident ‘cheating’, she considered it ‘being resourceful’
2) She admitted that she believes that “Anything that is not illegal is not wrong to me”
3) She hinted her Top 10% status would have been put in jeopardy had she not done it.</p>

<p>Too bad I saw her as an intelligent girl. Now I saw that she was just in reality a sick, deluded perfectionist who has to rationalize her serious mistakes in life. </p>

<p>What you did is similar. It was still illegal, dishonest, and ignorant. You accessed material you shouldn’t have had access to. It then just so happens most of the questions were on your test because they were from material you shouldn’t have seen in advance! Why? Because you made the foolish assumption that everything linked here was legally available to you. You also had the knowledge that the test wasn’t available online, according to your teacher, because it shouldn’t be online legally.</p>

<p>So you were neglectful, dishonest, and you ended up “accidentally cheating”. Since you’re being dishonest about the matter to your teacher, you have, in fact, cheated.</p>

<p>Actually, interfc1, I think you’re very smart in preparing beforehand. You weren’t cheating, you were being resourceful. It’s not your fault that your teacher got the questions from previous exams.</p>

<p>Wait, so you did this on the AP Exam or the final test for the class itself (not the AP exam)</p>

<p>I disagree Foodlover. The teacher would never have said that it’s a past AP exam if he knew that students could find the exam online</p>

<p>I get your point…</p>