<p>My interests are Business, Physics, and Chinese. Ideally in college I would want to Dual degree in Ross and (either LSA or the Engineering school, I'll get to this later) and minor in Chinese.
From what I have been reading, a Dual-Degree program is hard enough already, but a minor might set it over. There are also some complications:</p>
<p>For this to work, I would have to apply to LSA, then apply preferred admission to Ross (or regular admission freshman year, we'll see). Then, I would have to apply for a dual degree. The matter that complicates this even further is I do not know if I want to do Engineering Physics or Physics in college. I am leaning towards Engineering Physics after reading more about it because it seems more practical and I like the heavy math, not the theories. So, I would then have to apply to the Engineering school first.</p>
<p>The one good thing about this issue is that Engineering Physics and Physics are the same courses freshman year and those two courses, along with the business requires the same Calc courses (from what I can tell).</p>
<p>The final complication is that I want to do two club sports (actually not as demanding in terms of training as I thought, but still it is an extracurricular). I also wanted to do study abroad in China, I can always do it during the summer if it becomes a problem.</p>
<p>I think you would be spreading yourself too thin. The Ross/Engineering dual degree is possible but a full time commitment in itself. Consider the Engineering/Chinese for undergrad and pursuing a MBA after some experience.</p>
<p>Dual degree LSA/Ross is significantly easier than dual degree ENGR/Ross. Especially if you want to study Chinese, do LSA/Ross and it won’t be extremely difficult.</p>
<p>There is no reason to get a dual degree in business/engineering, it won’t do anything to your job prospects at all if you’re trying to get into an engineering field, and engineering won’t be to significan’t of a boost for the business field. Why not engineering/chinese then an MBA? Dual-Degreeing in Ross and the Engineering school would be absolute hell, there are very few credits shared, and you wouldn’t have a life in college at all because you’d literally need 18 credits every semester. </p>
<p>I would narrow your interests a little more, maybe start taking a pre-business track, and if you like it better then engineering, switch into just Ross.</p>
<p>Not possible in 4the years. I would get the engineering degree and the minor. Then later, if you think you need it, get an MBA.</p>
<p>BBAs seem pointless to me. If you are smart enough and hard working enough to be an engineer, do it. If you find out it’s too much, switch to business</p>
<p>Yeah like Woody said, if you have a passion and an aptitude for both business and engineering, study Engineering first, then get an MBA later if you want. You can still get business jobs with an engineering degree.</p>
<p>It is possible in 4 years given careful planning. </p>
<p>The BBA is not valuable from an educational standpoint, but it is very helpful for networking/recruiting purposes. </p>
<p>I assure you that if you are able to handle the dual degree while doing well, it is certainly worth it. The people previously who claimed otherwise most likely don’t know anyone that has actually done the dual degree, so they are just speculating.</p>
<p>My daughter is not at Michigan, but she has been working toward dual majors in applied math (physics minor/concentration) and Japanese. She plans to take a engineering class next semester to see what she thinks. Anyway, one of the big problems for her was not so much work load, but schedule. Every semester, she has had a conflict with Japanese and either math or physics. The language classes require a lot of class time. Her five-credit language classes met seven hours per week and that fills your schedule pretty quickly.</p>
<p>She did take her second year of language in her university’s summer program and did have just over 20 AP credits. She will graduate within four years, but she will have quite a few more credits than most bachelor’s degree students. You may find that you really don’t need the language major; you can just get to a certain proficiency. I think that my daughter will end up with an East Asian Studies certificate rather than a full major in Japanese.</p>
<p>Nubswitstubs is doing it in 4 years. Me and him each know others who have. </p>
<p>I definitely don’t think it’s valuable to everyone, and probably isn’t valuable to a lot of people who try to as well, but if it is valuable to you go do it. Why do you want to dual degree?</p>
<p>Depending on your situation it might take you longer than 8 semesters. Do some planning and see how it goes.</p>
<p>Wow, I just typed a huge thing and then the post did not work, I will try to restate everything again.
Sorry I have been unable to reply for awhile, I just have not had time. Based on what a lot of people have been saying, it is a lot of work and only valuable if you really want to do it. In response to Vladen, the reason I want to take this path is because these are my three interests and it can open up to almost any career choice. I might decide that one of these majors is not right for me, which is fine, but I just want to make sure I am prepared if I continue to enjoy all of these subjects.</p>
<p>I was wondering if anyone here is taking Physics or Engineering Physics? Nubwitstubs said that high level math is mainly proof-based. I am currently doing a lot of proofs in my physics class and am really enjoying it. My teacher has been giving us ones from his sophomore-junior year in college. The dilemma is that I really enjoy these proofs and I know that Physics is mainly that (especially at the higher levels). But, I do not know how practical they are for a career. This is why I was not sure about Engineering physics, it seems more practical and something that I can draw on later in life. I also do not like the astronomy side of physics.</p>
<p>I’m a student but I’m going to say stuff anyway. Proofs aren’t really applicable in industry, but a lot of companies just want smart people. For a lot of jobs they’re happy to train you to do whatever, they just need you to be smart and hard working. Proofs are very important for academia in almost every subject. </p>
<p>Nubs came in with a lot of credits. Not sure how many, he’ll have to tell you. I know a guy who came in with 0 credits and graduated with both degrees in 4 years (he did take spring/summer classes though).</p>
<p>Ouch, yeah I do want to graduate in four years. I think it would be easier to do the LSA and Ross then. I believe the math courses will overlap.</p>
<p>I came in with 35 credits, but most of them weren’t useful. AP credits are pretty much worthless in terms of fulfilling degree requirements unless they are in science or math. IB credits, on the other hand, can be used to fulfill distribution requirements. </p>
<p>I am doing IOE/BBA, which is the easiest engineering/business dual degree. I know others who have done/are doing the dual degree with ME, EE, CS(LSA), and ChemE. </p>
<p>Vapkez, you don’t sound too motivated to pursue the engr/bba route, so I’d recommend just doing lsa/bba if you want to ensure graduation in 4 years without too difficult of a courseload.</p>