Is tipping for everything out of control?

See my post and @Mjkacmom’s. Be careful what you wish for.

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To me a fair wage is at least minimum wage.

In TN, they make $2.13 an hour. That’s ridiculous. In CA, at least when I lived there, they earned minimum wage.

I have a company car. It’s a perk of my job. Tips should be a perk of serving.

I don’t understand sub wages. It’s ridiculous.

And I know some servers make bank - but we see the busy times - how about the hours they spend rolling silverware?

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I would like to hear from servers directly. The ones in our area are happy with tipping the way it is.

Oh, i’m not suggesting the tipping model change.

I’m simply saying - being paid a sub wage is BS.

I take the words “Minimum” wage to heart.

Yes, they have to earn at least minimum wage with tips - but I call BS.

The tips aren’t costing the owners…so why should Dicks Sporting Good have to pay minimum wage but not Olive Garden.

I’m just saying - give them the extra $5 an hour.

Right now, half the restaurants by me are half closed - less capacity and bigger lines than normal…can’t find help.

How about pay $7.25 as a start…is all i’m saying. Not adjusting anything else.

I just think the word minimum should mean something.

PS - i added the silverware line because - my daughter had a coach who worked at a place and I commented to him how packed it is and he must do well and he said - sure from 11:30-1:30 but the rest of the shift is spent rolling silverware, getting the restaurant ready for dinner.

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Wow that’s really low! It’s $7.80/hr for tipped workers in my area and $13.35 for non tipped workers BUT, most places are paying closer to $17/hour for server positions or they are closing because they can’t find people to work. And yes, restaurant prices have gone way up and we have all kinds of added fees appearing from everything to health insurance to covid (still).

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I’m trying to gift this Washington Post article, so I hope it works. It’s old but still applies in Maine, from what I’ve seen. Servers say their fear is that their tips will drop when people know they’re getting a minimum wage. “But in Maine, servers actively campaigned to overturn the results of a November referendum raising servers’ hourly wages from $3.75 in 2016 to $12 by 2024, saying it would cause customers to tip less and actually reduce their take-home income. Some cried with relief, Buckwalter said, when the final vote ended at 110 to 37 — overwhelmingly in their favor.”

https://wapo.st/3Jmtkhs

that’s nuts.

i don’t know what a server pays.

if they’re strong, i’m at 25%. Solid 20%. Sort of lame - 18%-ish.

I go to 9 states regularly - Maine is tourist heavy (in parts anyway) - I don’t buy that argument - but it’s a democracy and if they got what they wanted, good for them.

My issue is just the $3.75. Minimum wage is $7.25 (nationally any way) - so not sure why they should earn less.

I miss the olden days when the tip you left actually went to the server who served you…and they put money in for the other workers. Sometimes I have been at places where the server made the experience…places where items on the menu were explained, for example. When that happens, I want the server who does that extra work to get an extra tip.

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So we all know waitstaff are paid less. What about baristas and bookstore workers? I honestly don’t know what kind of wage those people get.

I was a waitress all through college and tips helped me survive. My basic wage in California was the minimum wage at the time, if I recall. I have no idea if that is still the case.

I get that tipping everyone for everything is lovely, but if others are being paid a reasonable wage, and legally, waitstaff can be paid less, then there is a legitimate reason why we tip them. I have always thought this was the main reason why waitstaff get paid minimum wage, or, it appears, less, in places.

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how it works in my state

The Tennessee Server Minimum Wage in 2022 is just $2.13 per hour (foreignusa.com)

NJ server minimum wage was $2.13 until this year, now it’s $5.26. Minimum wage here is now $14.13, a living wage in NJ is $20.00.

So the low wages of servers are due to the expectation that customers will supplement their earnings with tips. As it has been for many a year.

Does anyone know what a barista earns? Just curious.

I don’t mind tipping at a restaurant where we sit down and are served. I don’t tip at a restaurant where I order with a cashier (or on a phone app) and pick up my food to go.

Maybe I am old school but I don’t tip my hairdresser who owns the salon.

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Out of interest, does she report all of her tip income on her taxes?

I’m not sure but so far she hasn’t made enough in any year to actually have to pay taxes, not sure about this year.

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I would so much rather just pay $5 for a coffee instead of $3.50 and have the store pay its people properly.

I feel pressure to tip 20% everywhere for everything.

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Maybe it is just part of the credit card payment tablet/software whether it be a restaurant, office, etc??

When I first started encountering it, I assumed so, so I had no issue ignoring it when I wasn’t receiving service. But again, I have not seen it outside of food establishments.

Stopped at a local pub for a couple of drinks. Here is their new policy.

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I wouldn’t tip extra in that case. I’m not going to pay 40% over the sticker price. I hope they’re paying their employees well.

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Of course we did not pay another 20%. There was a tip line on the bill, but I skipped it as all we had was a couple of drinks. The policy was clearly posted at the door, and we got a couple of reminders, both before ordering and with the check. The pub was packed (go Kraken!), and the staff looked happy and was very attentive.

I like that there is a commission component of the pay. If the service is awful, people will not linger longer for more drinks or dessert.

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