My question would be why customers have to shoulder this?
How other countries (many in the west) can run restaurant businesses without making it a burden to customers?
Hopefully on the menus too.
I was in Seattle this summer. I think every Starbucks downtown was closed except the Pikes Place one. Many restaurants were closed or half open. They all posted limited hours of they opened.
Maybe this is the best way to gain employees - assure everyone is fair and no one stiffs you.
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A favorite local restaurant here used to be open seven days a week and open to midnight most days. Now they are closed Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Open to 8 pm some days and only 7:30 on others! So early.
Here in NJ, we were hit hard with staffing issues, diners are no longer open 24 hours! There is a bar/restaurant right over the border in the next town, different county, still open until 3 am. The local parkway rest stop which can be accessed by local roads is closed for renovations, all of this has been hard on our young adults.
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Here is a new one to me, but maybe Iâm just out of the loop.
Some of you who follow Grown and Flown Parents on FB might have seen this yesterday. A woman was shopping for prom dresses with her daughter at a boutique. When it came time to buy the dress, there was an option for tipping, but the only options were no tip, 10%, 15% and 18%. There was no option to customize and tip an amount of your choosing. The 10% tip was $47! (Expensive prom dress!). So the mom was ok with tipping, sort of, but not 10% of the dress price - so when she queried if she could customize the tip, the girl said no, but she and an older woman working in the store said she could send the girl a tip via Zelle and gave the woman her Zelle code. The woman was taken aback, but said there were signs in the store that tipping was welcome. She said the whole thing was awkward and she ended up sending her $20 via Zelle.
My older daughter ordered her dress online, but this was a timely thing for me b/c my younger daughter and I were planning to visit some boutiques in the next couple of weeks for her prom dress. Is it customary to tip? And what if you donât buy a dress? I would never have even thought about it had this woman not posted about it.
No, it is not customary to tip on a dress, or a sofa, or a pair of shoes, or a bag of nails.
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Nope, not doing that.
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Ha, glad to know itâs not customary as I had no plans of having to tip someone. I think I would have noted the dress/designer and walked out, finding it elsewhere. How dare the sales clerks suggest the woman use Zelle!
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Those salespeople are usually paid a commission. When D1 bought her wedding dress, the salesperson had to order it, get it fitted numerous times. Never thought about tipping and it was not expected. I would have laughed if it even came up.
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I just looked it up, as I live in CA and was curious. One is required to pay all workers, tipped or not, CAâs minimum wage: $15.50.
Yuck, I would NOT have tipped. Would complain to management and store owner and designer. Extortion is not ok.
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I would not tip nor would I feel the least bit guilty for not tipping in states that are paying 15/hour. Unfortunately in my state that is not the case.
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Why ? Can someone live on $15 an hour?
How do you know how much the people who serve your table make ? Minimum wage is that - it doesnât mean they arenât making more.
If youâre going to eat in a restaurant, especially full service, you should tip. Or you shouldnât deprive them of serving someone who will by occupying that table.
How much do you make ? If itâs more than minimum wage, maybe we can talk to your boss about lowering your wage. I think itâs a bit aggressive as to what they pay you. Since you think minimum wage is fine, that should then suit you.
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$15 per hour is a yearly GROSS pay of $30K. Net certainly less than that.
Not exactly thriving, especially in a high cost-of-living state (like MA where I live)
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So are you saying we should tip everyone who makes $15 an hour.
My child makes $13 an hour and does not get tips, so why should my child tip someone making $2 an hour more than what they make?
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If you are getting a service where tipping is a part of the normal process, then you should tip - whether a food server, Uber driver, Bellman, hotel shuttle etc.
Otherwise you should not use their efforts.
What your kid makes is irrelevant to whether someone should get a tip.
What my kid makes is very relevant to what they should tip. And I support my child on however they feel they should handle it. I have no problem if they donât want to tip someone who makes more than they do. Itâs about what my child can afford. Iâm so over some people saying that someone who can not afford to tip should not be allowed to enjoy those services.
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Interesting that earlier in this thread you wrote that a tip is voluntary, yet now you say that those services should not be used if you donât tip.
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They should enjoy them at less expensive places. Listen no one is legally required to tip. But people who are busting their butts should not be subjected to someone not participating as society expects. I, for one, neednât worry abooy someone spitting in my food.
Moving on âŠ
A tip is voluntary. Didnât say it wasnât.
But it is wrong not to tip. Imho.