Of course they and most everyone wants a tip, IMO the question is that given USA is the primary tipping country, why do some of us feel the need to do this outside of the US unless we think this is a good practice. I definitely do not think that tipping is a good practice so if it is not customary, I certainly do not do it.
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An example today. I went to a small local deli in our neighborhood. Bought two things: some soup I scooped out and put in container myself (itās self serve) and a container of hummus dip I took out of the refrigerated case. Set it on the counter and paid. Bad to ask for a bag for it -soup in the car? Yes a bag is appropriate!)
When the tip screen came up I paused and said to myself - no! - all they literally did was cash me out! This is a case where if you need to charge a little extra do it - but the behind the counter staff did so little (which was fine) to warrant a tip in my opinion.
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Youāre being too nice. They did nothing.
Iāve seen a lot of ātipping is out of control articlesā so itās not just us trendsetters folks. I am much better about saying no.
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Our new major is pushing hard for the city to eliminate tipped workers and have everyone earn at least minimum wage. Minimum wage here is currently $15.80 for employers with more than 21 employees and $13.70 for small businesses.
My H feels that if restaurants end up having to pay everyone minimum wage, the cost will be passed along to the consumer (which already happened once when the tipped wage went way up) and that we are still going to be required to pay 20% tip. Many restaurants tack on the 20% here and donāt give customers the option to leave a different amount, unless of course you want to give more. H feels that if we eliminate tipped worker wages, then tips should be eliminated entirely but I donāt see restaurants doing that.
Does anyone live in an area where theyāve eliminated tipped workers or is Chicago leading the charge here?
I would love to move to a European non tip model for restaurants. And while weāre at it, I also love that the prices in Europe include the tax. IMO, easier to know what you are paying up front without having to do any further calculations.
Is that even legal ? I would think not.
A tip is voluntary, not mandatory.
I would like the California tile - you get at least minimum wage. These other states with a sub minimum is ridiculous.
Some get a company car, etc some get tips.
Itās not for the mayor to tell me to tip or not.
The city would need to pass an ordinance change. They are looking to do a two year phase in. There is a lot of opposition from the restaurant industry so I donāt know if theyāll get the votes .
There is a national organization trying to ban tipped workers everywhere - One Fair Wage.
Sorry. I added more. Was mid thought.
We have a $14.75 minimum wage for everyone. I really pulled back on tipping after the pandemic ended. And who decided 20% was ānormalā? I remember when it was 10% and that was when prices were lower. And then it was 15%. And now people expect more than 20%? For places that still have a tipped wage thatās lower it makes sense, but not if servers are already getting nearly $15 per hour. And I happily hit āno tipā for counter service.
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Major wage increase for tipped restaurant workers in Chicago.
No more sub minimum wage jobs in Chicago starting next summer, with a slow phase in of the new salary until 2028. My H says that means no tipping necessary after 2028 in Chicago and weāll move to a European model. Time will tell!
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I am with your husband. If the restaurant workers are getting paid minimum wage or above, I definitely no longer tip.
I donāt know how much servers make in Europe, but I worked as one making $2.35 when I was in college. There is no way Iād take that job for minimum wage and no tips, itās a job that allows folks to earn bigger bucks for very hard work, for minimum wage Iād rather be a cashier at target, the work is easier, the hours are better.
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I wonder if the service will change here. When weāre in Europe many places are not concerned with speed/quick turnover. Meals seem like a leisurely affair. Dishes donāt have to be cleared and glasses donāt have to be refilled as quickly.
Hmmm. Disagree with your husband. California was always this way (at least when I lived there til 2006).
Wage earned has nothing to do with how much one should tip - IMHO of course.
That is simply a European way of dining. No rushing through the meal, no quick table turning, and removal of plates while someone at the table is still eating is considered very rude! When we were having a dinner with a visiting European colleague here in the US, she scolded the waiter for grabbing her empty plate, āExcuse me, please put that down, my colleagues are still eating!ā 
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Ok. So I just ordered something online to be delivered. Did the research. Picked my item around $600. Will be delivered to my home. Before checkout they asked for a tip!!
Yes, this has gone too far.
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We just got D2ās wedding venue contract, which included catering, which indicated that they paid their wait staff a good wage and no tip was expected. We were told by our wedding planner thatās the case and we would only need to tip minimally for special services. She has done many weddings at the venue.
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What type of item was this @bhs1978 ?
I thought of this thread at the Newark airport. I did a self checkout at a news stand/snack place and it asked for a tip. I said tip who? Me?! Lol.
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Yes, because you have done such an excellent job of checking out.
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