<p>Hey, just thought I might move this thread back on topic. How does Berkeley students NOTin Haas fare in ibanking recruitment? I might want to major in computer science or mathematics, but I still want to leave my options open for ibanking in case I change my mind in the future.</p>
<p>Yeah, I’m also wondering how Berkeley Econ fares in comparison?</p>
<p>If I was an employer, I would view econ and business equally (with a slight lead to the econ major). Econ is more challenging, thought provoking, etc. Anyone can do business. Getting into Haas is just a function of how many apply and how seats there are. Plus, if you want to go into law school a degree in econ will help.</p>
<p>as long as its a target school, it doesn’t matter what you major in. berkeley is not a target school, though that’s not to say someone from berkeley can’t make it into i-banking.</p>
<p>Correction: Berkeley is a semi-target. All BB’s recruit there but some are only for west coast offices. Many students from Berkeley (esp Haas) join the ranks of the BB’s and elite boutiques every year.</p>
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<p>I have no idea about past years, but according to friends I have who are seniors in both DSP and Haas at Cal, last year and this year there are almost no banks out of the SF area recruiting there. </p>
<p>Freshman friends at Cal have almost told me there is no recruiting on campus for summer internships for either freshman or sophomore. </p>
<p>For what it’s worth, I attend a target school, and we’ve had banks from NYC, SF, and Chicago recruit here (although primarily NYC because of our geographic location), and as a freshman I had 7 finance related internships to apply to this summer (including 2 at BB’s and 1 at DE Shaw). My friends at other targets have had similar cases, including Stanford which is geographically in the same sphere as Cal, so – at least based on my personal experiences – I’d label Cal as a semi-target.</p>
<p>Hey herrsque, </p>
<p>You’re a funny guy. I was just wondering what your credentials are. Are you a graduate of CMC and a highly paid professional on Wall St? Because you obviously know more than anyone else on this thread. Also, what is your beef with Berkeley and anyone who defends it? Is it that big of a deal to prove your CMC’s superiority? Anyways, I also just want to thank you, herrsque, for your entertaining posts lol…they made my morning.</p>
<p>Berkeley is a target, PERIOD. End of Discussion.</p>
<p>See where some graduates are going off to:</p>
<p>[Alpha</a> Kappa Psi - Alpha Beta - UC Berkeley - Careers and Internships](<a href=“http://www.calakpsi.com/next/bro_jobs.php]Alpha”>http://www.calakpsi.com/next/bro_jobs.php)</p>
<p>[Brothers</a> | Careers & Internships](<a href=“http://www.dsp-rho.com/brothers_careersinternships.php]Brothers”>http://www.dsp-rho.com/brothers_careersinternships.php)</p>
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<p>What kinds of internships are they ?</p>
<p>Firapira,</p>
<p>Your links prove nothing about UCB. Schools like Stanford have as many interns in just Goldman Sachs as the ENTIRE Delta Sigma Pi fraternity or whatever at UCB has in all of the banks.</p>
<p>UCB is 2nd tier school for investment banking. Ok but not good or great.</p>
<p>^wow u mad or something?!</p>
<p>I am answering the OP’s question, is the school a target or not. Yes it is.</p>
<p>Now you’re trying to butt heads over does it place the most interns at x bank… as say Wharton or Stanford? no it doesn’t, but those banks still come to recruit at UCB.</p>
<p>Now maybe if you said, which school is the “BEST” target, we could talk about that.</p>
<p>Berkeley is definitely a target school, especially for west coast offices and especially from Haas. I went to the other school across the bay, and I saw plenty of Haas kids at various superdays.</p>
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<p>For the ones that recruiters came to campus for to interview freshman, 6 were analyst positions were you would be a summer analyst but would have to report to a senior member who would have to overview almost all of your decisions. The first week weeks (most were 8-12 weeks) almost always consisted of straight training too. The most prestigious of these is the JP Morgan Frosh/Soph program, but I guess that didn’t fully count since they only accepted Sophomores this year from my school (I know freshman from other schools who got interviews but have not yet a freshman yet who got an offer). </p>
<p>The exception here is GS, who only offered on campus recruited for freshman for positions in their compliance division. However, every kid I know that did compliance at GS last year (albeit only 6 students) is either at GS or another BB this summer, so it’s proven to be a pretty good feeder (not many freshman have the opportunity to jump into the industry so early). </p>
<p>Although I do not know as much as some of the other people on this board, I would still say that Cal is a semi-target. If you look at the On Campus recruiting list for sophomores-seniors for both Cal and my own school (which I have done), I don’t think you can really say the two are on equal grounds. Cal definitely does get on campus recruiting, but I just don’t think its justifiable to give the impression that it’s as heavily recruited as the rest of the targets.</p>
<p>That said, if you do well at Cal you will have your ample share of opportunities.</p>
<p>Roneald is correct. Anyone at any university should do their utmost best to succeed at either graduate school or at a job. However, I feel compelled to mention that many people here on this thread believe that UC Berkeley is “not a target school” or a “semi-target” school. UC Berkeley IS a target school.</p>
<p>It is important to understand that UC Berkeley is a school with an outstanding reputation and international prestige that rival those of HYSPM. Just because it is a public institution does not mean that UC Berkeley falls behind of many top elite private schools. Many rankings (e.g. ARWU, THES, Washington Monthly etc), articles, and college review guides describe the University of California at Berkeley as one of the most distinguished schools in the world. </p>
<p>To brand UC Berkeley as a “second-tier” school is simply wrong. One should understand that UC Berkeley has nothing short of opportunities. It has as many opportunities as a Stanford graduate, Harvard graduate, MIT graduate, or a Princeton graduate, depending on the field of industry.</p>
<p>Hence, although I do admit that my reply may be too late to be relevant (considering the fact that the OP has posted this almost a year ago), I hope my post serves as a helpful guide to those who are doubtful of UC Berkeley’s position in the world.</p>
<p>Yes, Berkeley is definitely a target school. No contest about that.</p>
<p>Whatever helps you sleep at night RML…</p>
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<p>You’re joking right? I turned down a CMC scholarship to attend Berkeley. They tried to recruit me due to certain EC’s.</p>
<p>As a Berkeley grad. No one has ever questioned my educational credentials and I landed my dream job too.</p>
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<p>I don’t agree. I’m sure its possible to get a good job as a CC transfer, but if we’re talking baller level positions straight out undergrad (MBB or top IB/BB) I have never seen a CC transfer nab these spots. Maybe its because CC transfers hide their CC past once they get in the system. Thats completely possible and could have given me this skewed view.</p>
<p>However, when I think of the smart CC transfer kids I knew when I was at Cal, there were several who were as smart as any of our top students, but they took longer routes to get into their preferred fields. One applied to PE / VC shops after he graduated cum laude transferring from a CC to Haas and got dinged at every major shop. Nonetheless, he did get into HBS and got an overseas job at Barclays after graduating, again cum laude, and is doing well now.</p>
<p>Another CC transfer tried to get into MBB, got dinged by all 3 plus some more, was not a cum laude but had solid grades, doubled econ/bus. Ended up working at a lower ranked CF practice and got a job with Bain when he reapplied a few years later. His story was pretty atypical.</p>
<p>When I think of all the smart transfers I met, few of them got coveted jobs straight out of UG. Several went to grad school / bschool because they felt forced to, since they felt the CC bit was getting them dinged at good firms.</p>
<p>Honestly, my best advice to a CC transfer is give your favorite firms a shot, but if it doesn’t work out, be prepared to go to business school, out of pocket. In my experience graduate schools, incl. HBS, are a lot more forgiving of transfer students than top firms.</p>
<p>If anyone has better information than me I’d love to hear it.</p>