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<p>$100 says they were a social sciences, humanities, or art focused major.</p>
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<p>Sure, but I’m not sure that that obviates the point, when you consider that a large fraction, probably the majority, of Berkeley undergrads are soc-sci, humanities, or art-focused majors.</p>
<p>But even putting those majors aside, you also have physics majors becoming house painters. You have math majors becoming waiters.</p>
<p><a href=“https://career.berkeley.edu/Major2006/Physics.stm[/url]”>https://career.berkeley.edu/Major2006/Physics.stm</a></p>
<p><a href=“https://career.berkeley.edu/Major2006/Math.stm[/url]”>https://career.berkeley.edu/Major2006/Math.stm</a></p>
<p>I meant that post as a little joke. Especially with all the recent Yahoo! articles dismissing said majors. </p>
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<p>Those stats always make me so depressed.</p>
<p>Ignore Sakky.</p>
<p>Sakky’s post is objective and has official school data to back his point. I don’t know why you would want to ignore him.</p>
<p>Obviously, if you pursue a math major and end up with a 2.0, then your prospects aren’t good.</p>
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<p><subj>…< H >…< Y >…< P >
Math … 2 … 10 … 2
CS … 17 … 20 … 8
BioSci … 2 … 7 … 7
Chem … 4 … 13 … 16
Phys … 1 … 11 … 5
Econ … 1 … 6 … 1
English … 4 … 2 … 7
History … 5 … 1 … 1
PoliSci … 1 … 5 … 1
Psych … 3 … 3 … 8
Sociology … 5 … 20 … 3</subj></p>
<p>Yale also has a top ranked Law School and a 6th ranked medical school. Not so great?</p>
<p>Ignore indiscreetmath.</p>
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<p>Uh, you’re going to rely on the patent output of the entire University of California system as a supporting point? Frankly, that seems to weaken your argument that Berkeley - by itself - is a top school, not strengthen it. Who cares what the entire UC system is doing? I thought the topic of discussion was how well Berkeley specifically was doing.</p>
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<p>You keep saying that as if grade inflation was such a bad thing. Trust me, there are plenty of Berkeley students who would like nothing more than to have some of that Stanford-style grade inflation. If you don’t believe me, go hang around the disproportionately engineering-populated dorms such as Foothill when final grades of weeder courses are announced, and notice all of the long faces betraying shattered dreams. Forget about just getting a C - some of those students will have just found out that they’ve landed on academic probation…or worse.</p>
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<p>Sure, I agree that that’s a problem. </p>
<p>On the other hand, what’s also a problem is that the “preference of financial aid” means that public schools such as Berkeley are becoming increasingly too expensive for the working and middle class - a sentiment expressed by the Chancellor</p>
<p>…Robert Birgeneau showed in a presentation how attending Harvard could be less expensive than attending the University of California, even for an in-state resident. A California student whose family earns $90,000 pays around $25,000 in total costs at UC; the same student entering Harvard in the fall would pay about $6,300 to $10,300.</p>
<p>[The</a> New Math of College Financing - WSJ.com](<a href=“http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120846172336223781.html]The”>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120846172336223781.html)</p>
<p>I myself happen to know two guys from modest backgrounds who, having nobody else from their families ever having gone to college, had always dreamed of going to Berkeley…but also got into Harvard, and found that Harvard was actually cheaper for them once financial aid was factored in. I will always remember one of them acidly commenting that since he couldn’t afford Berkeley, he had “no choice” but to go to Harvard.</p>
<p>by the National Research Council rated 48 of Cal’s 52 ranked Ph.D. programs in the top 10 in the country. At Harvard University, second on the NRC’s list, 46 of 52 programs ranked in the top 10.
It’s been 15 years since the NRC did this type of ranking study. In 1995, U.C. Berkeley made the top 10 in 35 of 36 fields. </p>
<p>Cal also ranked at the top in a 1982 study by the NRC.</p>
<p>More important for blue-and-gold boosters, though, Cal whomped archrival Stanford University in NRC’s study of the nation’s best graduate programs. Where U.C. Berkeley had 40 of its programs ranked in the top 5, just 30 of Stanford’s were. And 14 of Cal’s graduate programs were ranked in first place, whereas just 11 were at the rival across the bay.</p>
<p>San Francisco Business Times</p>
<p>I didn’t know Cal Won 66 Nobel Prizes.</p>
<p>Berkeley offers around 300 undergraduate and graduate degree programs in a wide range of disciplines, and the university has the highest number of graduate programs ranked in the top 10 in their fields by the United States National Research Council. Among other distinctions, University faculty, alumni, and researchers have won 66 Nobel Prizes, 9 Wolf Prizes, 7 Fields Medals, 12 Turing Awards, 43 MacArthur Fellowships, 19 Academy Awards, and 11 Pulitzer Prizes.</p>
<p>This is probably the last comment from me. </p>
<p>Bye</p>
<p>That doesn’t seem like a very good post to go out on. Listing a bunch of awards may impress some people, but it doesn’t really say much about how good it is actually to study here.</p>
<p>How many elements in the periodic table are named after Berkeley?
What’s that number for Stanford?</p>
<p>Of course my silly question doesn’t show anything, but I thought I’d just point that out xD</p>
<p>As to whether Berkeley is underrated, it really depends on the individual. Some individuals love it here (like myself), some hate it. Like sakky mentioned, there are a lot of tail-end students who probably would’ve been better off somewhere else.</p>
<p>Berkeley has lots of problems. Its system alone - being public - is a problem for some. It is huge and people are complaining that it’s overcrowded. </p>
<p>Personally, I think Berkeley would improve substantially if it would limit its undergrad population to a minimum level and decrease the number of transfer intakes. (Minimum level is a level that Berkeley would have a 1:10 faculty to student ratio, or something like 12k undergrad student population.) Having said that, many of the problems that Berkeley are facing now are the same problems that some schools - large, medium-sized or small - are dealing with right now too. Maybe Berkeley has a little more than others. But for its price, people shouldn’t be complaining. </p>
<p>Personally, I would rank Berkeley in the same level as Cornell, CMU, Duke, Chicago, NU, UVa, Michigan, Columbia, UPenn or JHU, in general, lower than those schools for some programs, and as superior as HYPSM for other important majors/programs.</p>
<p>God bless you, RML.</p>
<p>Online sneeze?</p>
<p>One more and I am gone. See you next spring.
List of Nobel laureates by university affiliation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>
<p>Top 10
- Columbia 97
- Chicago 85
- MIT 80
- Harvard 74
- Berkeley 66
- Stanford 51
7.Yale 49
8.JHU 33
9.NYU 33
10.Princeton 32</p>
<p>Top 10 Graduate Only
- Harvard 45
- Columbia 38
- Chicago 29
- Berkeley 26
- MIT 26
- Yale 18
- JHU 15
- Princeton 13
- NYU 8
9 .Stanford 8</p>
<p>If only these stats…you know… mattered.
I mean, I’m not gonna be running around spouting off about how many NLs Berkeley has now am I?</p>
<p>Well. my D is in Berkeley. and my son went to UCLA.</p>