<p>WHICH IS BETTER................. Academics? Sports? Location? Social scene? Rep?
Forget the rankings, among students only....I would go to one of the UC's such as Berkeley, Ucla or UCSD....but i'ma west coast student so i'm wondering if any east coast students would think the UC system could compare to the Ivy's or will its academics have a rep comparable to the Ivy's in 10 years.</p>
<p>Ivy > UC. I live in Fremont, CA and I'm saying this. Academics: It all depends on what you're looking for, UC's tend to have a broad spectrum of things as do Ivies but at Berkley the average freshman class is a 500 person lecture. My math teacher told me his linear algebra class had 900 people in it.</p>
<p>Sports: Unless you look at The Game or the Harvard-Cornell hockey rivalry there are only a few other sports focuses whereas the UC's are pretty into it with the PAC10 and all.
Location: I personally love California, but I also love Boston and most of New England. All college towns are different, all college towns are the same. Dinner...Ill postmore later</p>
<p>dumb...</p>
<p>ucs cant even come close to the ivys.</p>
<p>I've lived in the Bay Area my whole life...My high school is practically a feeder school to UCB. Go there if you want a cheap instate tuition with a good overall education. But it's public--the classes at each UC are exactly the same...there's no difference between Organic Chemistry at UCSD versus at UCB. And the class size is ridiculous. 6,000? I would feel lost. Oh and the bureaucracy is supposed to be horrible. </p>
<p>But who can really say. Some of my friends are picking UCB over schools like Penn, Cornell, Columbia, Georgetown, and Princeton. Mostly because of Berkeley's strong engineering program.</p>
<p>I dunno...
I know a few people who picked UCs over schools like Swarthmore, Cornell, but that's because the UCs are such a bargain for in-state students. The main drawback I see with UCs are their ridiculous size... I have a friend who did not go to Berkeley after he sat in on a calculus class that had over 500 students.</p>
<p>I also prefer private universities tenfold over public universities for some of the reasons californiakid stated.</p>
<p>I personally also prefer the atmosphere of the east coast, but I'm biased... I picked Harvard.</p>
<p>I think that Berkeley compares well with some of the "lower" Ivies such as Cornell. If I was an in-state student, and I wasn't getting any substantial financial aid from any of my choices, I would probably pick Berkeley over a lower Ivy, primariliy for the cost.</p>
<p>wattt r ukidding
i think none of the public schools are as good as any ivy in terms of overall general education.</p>
<p>That may be so, but the fact is, the UC's are dirt cheap for state residents. That's a pretty big deal for a lot of people.</p>
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<p>I've heard some Harvad students complain about the common core. Brown lacks any structured curriculum. What are you saying, exactly? What is within the "overall general" education?</p>
<p>The instate cost is a great selling point for the UC's, and the education is fairly good as far as public schools go (you'll find ridiculously large classes at every public school). However, I don't know what kind of alumni connections the UC's offer...even the "lower" Ivies have an incredibly strong alumni network spread throughout the country. I guess it depends on what you want from your college.</p>
<p>Wait, am I to understand that Harvard lacks any ridiculously large classes?</p>
<p>Harvard probably does, but obviously not as much as the UC's. Let's face it: they're public schools...I don't see how you can compare them to the Ivy League Universities. In response to the OP's question, I live on the East Coast, and the UC's really aren't too well known. I guess the instate advantage is a big hook for the west coast kids.</p>
<p>Probably does? Does. As does yale, cornell, you name it. Yes, UCs have it more, but it's ridiculous, annoying, and false when people at places like Harvard and Stanford claim these classes essentially do not exist, and characterize public schools as having almost every class as one of these.</p>
<p>I think many east coasters know Berkeley, and many UCLA. <em>shrug</em></p>
<p>Come on now, let's keep the arguments G rated.</p>
<p>Well thanks for the advice, I think i'ma stay in cali just because the Weather, and of course i'm not to big with "hockey rivalries". I would rather see a Stanford vs. Berekely or UCLA vs. USC football game... but if i had to pick an Ivy i would pick Columbia Penn or Princeton. I hear out here in the cali that Stanford is better academically then Harvard, but i guess thats just opinons. I just think the UC's are really "underrated" JUST because they are public.....</p>
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*As DO yale, cornell, you name it.</p>
<p>Sigh, I guess that's what a public education gives a student. Incorrect Grammar101. Class size: 6000.
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<p>ZOMG! One minor grammatical error is totally indicative of someone's intellect! And one student is totally indicative of EVERY student at a university.</p>
<p>By the way, amiga, you ought to check your stats. Turns out those huge class sizes aren't really that huge.</p>
<p><a href="http://www2.acs.ncsu.edu/UPA/peers/current/research_intensive/class50.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www2.acs.ncsu.edu/UPA/peers/current/research_intensive/class50.htm</a>
<a href="http://www2.acs.ncsu.edu/UPA/peers/current/research_intensive/class20.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www2.acs.ncsu.edu/UPA/peers/current/research_intensive/class20.htm</a></p>
<p>But don't let facts get in the way of a good argument.</p>
<p>I wouldn't say all UC's are comparble to IVY schools. However, Berkeley is well regarded worldwidely and considered as a far better school than lower IVY schools. Berkeley is a world-class school as HYPC.</p>
<p>I'd say that for graduate programs, Berkeley, UCLA, and UCSD are clearly strong contenders in many many fields.</p>
<p>Berkeley being a top 10 school in almost every field.</p>
<p>As an undergrad, you CAN tap into that, but many won't.</p>
<p>No disrespect for UCLA and UCSD, but Berkeley is on a totally different level - World-Class</p>
<p>Yeah, you're right. UCLA can't be considered world-class despite the fact that it's generally considered world-class. What was I ever thinking?</p>
<p>:rolleyes:</p>