<p>Thank you so very much @Heisenberg5 it is a hard choice I don’t which yo pick really love uf campus texas a&m is not really appealing to me. The campus is weird looking </p>
<p>135pipe you sound like you keep hoping UF is going to work out. Are you being too swayed by how much you love UF?</p>
<p>If you are counting on getting ins-state tuition after the first year in FL, that is a dangerous plan. What may be possible with info now may not be possible in one year.</p>
<p>heisenberg5 made some really good points.</p>
<p>After reviewing all the cost constraints, perhaps a mature cost-effective decision will take place. As you say, grad school is always a future possibility. </p>
<p>Find ways to like TAMU more, and maybe by Fish Camp it will grow on you more. I hear from many students who do not go to their first choice school then realize how much they like the school they go to. Look at glass half full instead of glass half empty.</p>
<p>@135pipe I’m curious as to what your plan is to get instate tuition. If you think you’ll get it just by living here for a year in college, you won’t get it. You would have needed to live in Florida for I believe at least 1 year prior to entering college. Otherwise, like I said before you will not get instate tuition. It’s rare for a public university to grant instate tuition to out of state kids unless they’re military kids. Many public universities make a lot of money off out of state tuition.</p>
<p>I was going perhaps buy a car or own something, that’s what it stated in the guidelines. If not I will pray for a waiver that’s all I can do.</p>
<p>I don’t know about car. If anything you need property or residence here. Assuming you will get here that way, I’d recommend you spend your money on housing (a car is not necessary to live here). There be some parking problems around here imo (dem tow trucks).</p>
<p>Of course, I can’t guarantee whether you can be granted instate tuition for going with this route. Oddly I have seen official statements about living the first year OOS and then you are in state, but I haven’t a clue about this.</p>
<p>I was intrigued enough to research this. According to my research for anyone to get in state tuition in Florida, there are several options. One is declaring independence. However, in order to be declared independent you need to either be 24, be married, have a child or provide at least 51% of the household income. Another way is to join the military. </p>
<p>The Student Must Provide Evidence to Substantiate the initial Residency Classification or the Request for Residency Change and the Citizenship Confirmation form (if newly naturalized) with legal ties to the state of Florida - </p>
<p>At least one document must be dated or issued at least 12 months before the first day of the semester for which Florida residency is sought. No single document is conclusive:
-Florida driver’s license
-Florida vehicle registration
-Florida voter’s registration
-Declaration of domicile
-Proof of purchase of a permanent home in Florida
-Florida occupational/professional license
-Florida incorporation or other evidence of legal residence</p>
<p>In addition, the student must also produce evidence of
-No legal ties to another state and
-Establishment of bona fide domicile in Florida (rather than maintaining a temporary residence incidental to enrollment at the university). Continued legal ties with another state contradicts establishment of Florida domicile.
-Proof of physical presence - Independent students must demonstrate that they have maintained a residence in the state of Florida for the domicile year (previous 12 months) associated with the term of entry to UF or the request for reclassification.
-Physical presence can be documented by
Continuous enrollment at the university for the past three terms, or
for periods of non-enrollment –
-Leases, rent receipts and utility bills in the student’s name
Proof of employment</p>
<p>Source: <a href=“http://www.admissions.ufl.edu/residency/qualifying.html”>http://www.admissions.ufl.edu/residency/qualifying.html</a>
<a href=“http://www.admissions.ufl.edu/residency/independent.html”>http://www.admissions.ufl.edu/residency/independent.html</a></p>
<p>Gosh that’s a lot of information yeeesh^ </p>
<p>@arrozconleche
Yes, this is just exactly what I was talking about. I did this research for Georgia (I’m instate Florida). One thing that really made the idea hard at the time was that there was a required clause: “intent to stay in Georgia”. This is one statement might have certain definitions per state. I didn’t see you mention this and I haven’t a clue if Florida actually requires this clause. The scary thing about this is some kind of obligation to work inside the state after college. Florida has some nice places for employment, but not any that I’m particularly interested in after graduation. I’ll try to fish this info out if I can remember where I found it. I’ll check if Florida has something similar.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>It will be almost impossible for you to get in-state tuition. The school will require lots of documentation proving that you are a resident who didn’t just move here to go to school. </p>
<p>@SweetheartCroc
I think you’re talking about the same “intent to stay in Florida” clause. I’ve read this before but I can’t find it anymore. </p>
<p>@135pipe
They really wouldn’t give instate if you’d just go for school. They’d only do it if you had previously lived here (hence already paided taxes here) or if you intend to stay in Florida (where you’d make up for it by paying taxes by working in Florida). There are some downfalls to doing this, and I’m not sure how strict it is for them to okay you or to give chase for a really good job in California.</p>
<p>I would really suggest that you do not rely on getting instate (or doing this at all by the restrictions you’d put on yourself).</p>
<p>Yea I won’t do the instate (going to move to New York) in the future anyways so… But hoping for the scholarship </p>
@Gator88NE , @mom2collegekids , I was trying to find out what the academic criteria are for the OOS scholarships you mentioned that are described on the UF Web site.
Office of Admissions Alumni Scholarship: $8,000 per year
Sunshine Scholarship: $16,000 per year
Gator Nation Scholarship: $20,000 per year
Any idea of typical stat ranges and how many of each are offered? This looks pretty similar to the Indiana Bloomington situation at first glance. Thanks in advance.
@ohiovalley16 This was for 2014:
Alumni
Amount $8000
Number awarded: 42
Sunshine
Amount $16,000
Number awarded: 17
Gatornation
Amount $20,000
Number awarded: 12
That’s 70 scholarships for the 569 OSS students. UF admitted.
UF does want to increase it’s % of OOS students, so they are stepping up OOS recruitment. I would think they would also have to increase the number of OOS scholarships.
I’m not sure what would be the stat ranges would be, but UF is looking at a combination of stats and holistic factors (such as ECs and such).
Excellent @Gator88NE , thank you.
Something to keep in mind, UF has the lowest OOS percentage of any major flagship in the country. Only 4% of undergrads are OOS. Last year’s freshman class had 6%, so I’m not sure how much they’re stepping up.
Fuchs calls for more diversity at UF at board meeting
http://www.alligator.org/news/campus/article_4c925efa-dc1e-11e4-b12a-bf197d2e0c07.html
President Fuchs has “started” the effort to increase “diversity” (in this case geographic diversity). He can hire recruiters, but he’s real challenge will be funding more OOS scholarships and getting the citizens of Florida (read that as the state legislature and Governor) “OK” with lowering the % of students admitted from in-state.
His “93% Florida residents” quote doesn’t mesh with their common data set, which shows 96%. Nitpicking, either way it’s an amazingly low OOS population.
I think that’s the difference between the percentages of first-time, first-year (freshman) degree-seeking students (about 7%) and (all) degree-seeking undergraduates (about 4%).
We went through this entire analysis when my son was deciding between FSU and UF. We live outside Philadelphia so the OOS tuitions were about $36K and $48K respectively. My son graduated with a 4.0 unweighted and a 2150 SAT. From UF he received absolutely nothing, and FSU gave him an OOS tuition waiver. Then the analysis was between $15K for FSU and $48K for UF. After visiting both he was neutral, and the distinctions between the institutions are very, very small. I could not in good conscience pay 300% more for UF than FSU under those circumstances. UF is very, very clear about the fact that it offers almost nothing to OOS students.