<p>^^^: That is why I said it was not difficult for you to take 6 APs, since you didn't have any work load from the school. It is not easy to be able to cope with a rigorous curriculumn at a good school with 6 APs.</p>
<p>J. Shi, a little humility would be a nice touch. Not everyone can do what you do. Things don't come as easily for everyone as they do for you. I'm sure there are many kids in your school who work harder than you who don't have your rank.</p>
<p>If you can't understand that, then stop giving advice.</p>
<p>J. Shi; you might think of self studying at the College level also. It might not be useful for some one of your caliber to spend thousands of dollars at MIT/Harvard. Have you seen "Good Will Hunting"? Some people don't need to go to college to acquire knowledge but majority are not like that.</p>
<p>studying in high school!!!! remarkable. im guilty of never studying in high school, thus low sat scores :( haha ParentOfIvyHope, I took 5 AP's and 2 GT's (one up on honors) my junior year and got one B. I ended up getting into Cornell's engineering program.. I had a low 1380/1600 sat I score. I am sure your daughter will be fine. getting into MIT, harvard, princeton, yale, and etc is all random... seriously... amongst all the 2400's 4.0's and 15 Ap's kids... everyone is qualified, so it is pretty much random. EC's are important. i had strong EC's (worked at NASA and Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab) so I guess she should focus more on that?</p>
<p>^^^ thanks hinmanCEO: that is what I think too. There is a limit to GPA/SAT scores/APs and after the cut off; for the top bucket; you need ECs with special hooks to make it. You can not make it to the "Auto Admit list" just with good academics.</p>
<p>POIH, one college admissions book I read, the counselor said for science kids to get them to the Science Olympiads(Chemistry, Biology, Physics) that usually is good EC. I think it's true for people I know that got into HYPMS. Your daughter is rising Junior she should have plenty of time to join these clubs.</p>
<p>Environmental Science = joke</p>
<p>Bio = incredibly easy </p>
<p>Stats = pretty darn easy</p>
<p>Bottom line: you are fine.</p>
<p>At my school AP Bio is hardcore and can give several hours of homework a night. Students from that class have been known to come to school on Sundays to use the science lab, and most of them say it's their hardest class. I think you need to talk to the Bio teacher at your child's school about how demanding of a course it is, because it differs from school to school.</p>
<p>^^^: I've already talked to the school and AP Bio and AP Physics C are part of the hardest set of APs the school offers. The AP Bio has as a pre-requisite AP Chem. (B+ or higher) which was as hard as it can be during my D’s sophomore year. It also has a 6 weeks summer course for those that take it without a prior 1 year regular/Honors Biology course. AP Physics has a requirement of getting at least a B+ on Honors Physics.</p>
<p>^^yeah, at my D school, AP Bio is the second hardest AP. One kid who got into Caltech with 2400 SAT score, said the teacher was the biggest influence to his science career. So yes it depends on the high school.</p>
<p>AP classes differ from school to school</p>
<p>At my school, students can't take Ap Chem and Ap Bio in the same year because of how hard each one is...</p>
<p>But Ap Physics is a joke at my school</p>
<p>Chedva, people who work harder than me and don't have my rank? How on earth could they work harder? I am taking basically all advanced classes while other people are taking bs classes like PE and art. Only one other student is taking the same course load as me, and she has the same rank and works just as hard. Unless one is mentally challenged, if someone worked harder than me, they would have the same rank...haha, can't be higher, sorry--I took the most APs allowed. High school grades are based upon work ethic, not on mental ability. standaarized tests are for measuring brightness. For standarized tests, i can understand where someone may work harder than me and do worse, but i doubt it in high school. </p>
<p>Besides, Chedva do you even know what i had to do to achieve what i did? My days were more than 16 hours long, from 8AM to 12:30AM. At least 12 hours were dedicated to purely studying, the other 4 were for ECs and eating. You have no idea how much I had to disipline myself to concentrate my energy so that I could be as efficient as possible. ParentOfIvyHopeful, anyone can do what I did. all they need is extreme determination, persistence, and a disipline.</p>
<p>I'm not even naturally that smart. in middle school, i never got straight A's and I even got a C before.</p>
<p>and, self studying classes such as AP Biology is much harder than actually taking the class. Yes, Homework may waste time, but it still helps you learn. I had to actually teach myself the subject. Ask which your child would rather do.</p>
<p>You got a 2330, you are naturally smart. You should qualify your statement, if you are reasonably intelligent (like I believe POIH's child is) and you work really really hard you should get mostly A's.</p>
<p>Wow! I am amazed that AP Chem is required for AP Bio at some schools. There are NO prereqs for AP Bio at my school.</p>
<p>actually it's not difficult at all. Stat, enviro sci, and engli\sh lang. are considered some of the easier ap's.</p>
<p>The first part of AP Bio has some chemistry but a Chemistry class is not required, however, having a Chemistry class before taking AP Bio will help with the understanding of the Molecular part.</p>
<p>For all those saying oh these classes are a joke, they are, at most public schools and not competitive privates. However, from what I understand, POIH child goes to a very competitve private, thus the classes are <em>not</em> a joke. POIH, what grades (not AP exam scores) did your daughter get last year? If you aren't that comfortable saying that at least you can give us a range. Otherwise, we cannot answer your question.</p>
<p>Please keep in mind my experience (it's on the page before)</p>
<p>POIH: My son calibrated himself against his peers at school to determine how many AP classes to take. If your daughter knows seniors who took 6 AP classes last year and they say she can do it (given her load and grades last year), then she will be okay. This will be a far more accurate assessment than CC because homework loads in AP classes vary from school to school. At my son's school AP classes often have 3 hours of homework per night (some nights only 2). Any more than 3 APs and you do nothing but study all day every day, until the wee hours of the morning. It's not worth it and not necessary for Ivy acceptance. More EC's are better once you have 4 APs (in one year), and score well (above 750) on the SAT sections. SAT II's are less important, although above 700 proves that your courses were rigorous.</p>
<p>^^Agree(10 chars)</p>